Thread: D4 3.0 SDV6 catastrophic failure

Originally Posted by ATH

And that's the very reason I'm buying a Tojo Prado or maybe something else. Plus just recently I saw a thread where someone was quoted 5K for a new electronic oil sender thing! Surely that can't be right? Please tell me it isn't.
I've never understood apart from LR (Ford?) engineers loving electronic fancy bits, why an ordinary old fashioned dip stick was got rid of and this replaced it. Nothing dirty about checking oil with one and at least you could see if the oil change you'd paid for had been done when the stealer had had their hands on it.
Not that I'd let them touch my vehicle unless it was a warranty job so I didn't worry about that anyway.
AlanH.

Mate. It’s $12k for the fuel injection system if the common rail on a Toyota gets contaminated fuel through it.

All modern engines are big $$$ if something happens.

Originally Posted by SimmAus

A few things every D4 owner should get tattooed somewhere:

1) I will change the oil and oil filter every 10k kms
2) at the same time I’ll adjust the EPB
3) I’ll have a code reader available to use.

Everything else is in the same lottery of failure as every other vehicle on the planet.

Mate I have to say that some other manufacturers handle it so much better when there is a known engine weakness. My son is looking at MN Tritons. I told him about the 2.5 litre having a known porosity issue. Interestingly I know of many who have had brand new engines fitted from Mitsubishi even where there MN years out of warranty, goes kaput at over 300 000klm no questions asked and at zero cost to the owner (many times not even the original owner). Now how Mitsubishi can do that, but for a car whose retail price was often many times that of a Triton, Land Rover can't, has me buggered. Anyway, we buy them nonetheless . Cheers

Originally Posted by Tombie

Mate. It’s $12k for the fuel injection system if the common rail on a Toyota gets contaminated fuel through it.

All modern engines are big $$$ if something happens.

That's the truth. If the new motors tech got them to twice or three times the miles as older simpler motors it would be worth it. But even with the diesel savings it simply isn't. Cheers

Originally Posted by Tombie

Mate. It’s $12k for the fuel injection system if the common rail on a Toyota gets contaminated fuel through it.

All modern engines are big $$$ if something happens.

Yes I know thankyou Tombie, I'm not going into this blindly. But the fact remains you can still get engines for them and other makes years later and I won't be keeping it after warranty anyway. Plus mostly, I won't say all as I don't know, they still have dipsticks not some bloody silly electronic 5K thing some idiot designer thinks is an improvement.
I've kept the D4 longer than I normally would any vehicle because it's been so good, but will it continue being so? The thought of the turmoil of having no car/buying something for everyday use for months is too much for me.
AlanH.

Originally Posted by ATH

Yes I know thankyou Tombie, I'm not going into this blindly. But the fact remains you can still get engines for them and other makes years later and I won't be keeping it after warranty anyway. Plus mostly, I won't say all as I don't know, they still have dipsticks not some bloody silly electronic 5K thing some idiot designer thinks is an improvement.
I've kept the D4 longer than I normally would any vehicle because it's been so good, but will it continue being so? The thought of the turmoil of having no car/buying something for everyday use for months is too much for me.
AlanH.

Tojo have a pretty good fuel filter set up with idiot lights for water and pressure drop across the filter.
The main thing is once the light comes up,dont ignore it,which many do.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

I wonder where the ranger 3.0 is made, Thailand as well or maybe Mexico where the 4.4 TDV8 is made ?

So the new Ford Ranger and Everest are available with a Lion V6 Diesel.
Ford have also sell F-150 trucks in the USA with a 3.0 Lion motor.

Why does the Land Rover variant still have so many failures ?

This YouTube from LR Time was very interesting Worst Diesel Engine on the Planet ? Ford Lion V6 - Land Rover TDV6 SDV6 - YouTube


Yes I am one of those diehard Discovery owners who lost and engine in their 2005 D3 2.7 (owned from new) at 84,000Km - (cost me $14K and 3 months of “discussions” with LR) spun bearing.
Still have it, but have a Ford Everest as a daily driver. but I change the oil & filter every 10K and run 10W/40.
Just spent heaps on it having all the air struts renewed , belts, oil pump and auto serviced
Interestingly - the 18 year old D3 still feels like a better driving car.
The D3/D4 definielty get in to your blood, and they can get you to many places heaverly modified 4WDs struggle, but unfortuneatley as with all modern cars, when they fail its expensive !

I had yet another look at a D300 today and liked the look of that little dipstick beside the engine. Still very undecided, huge cost difference between that and a Prado but that's not a problem. Bit cramped for fridge space etc in the back.
Shall I, shan't I? Dunno.
AlanH.

Originally Posted by ATH

I had yet another look at a D300 today and liked the look of that little dipstick beside the engine. Still very undecided, huge cost difference between that and a Prado but that's not a problem. Bit cramped for fridge space etc in the back.
Shall I, shan't I? Dunno.
AlanH.

DIL just got a Y62. Very impressive lump of a thing. If you don't have to have a diesel they're worth a look. And what a noise! Well, it was a demo and the dealer fitted a sporty exhaust. She paid for a woodgrain delete though.. Don't blame her.