Thread: D4 3.0 SDV6 catastrophic failure

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Not sure - don’t believe the US will get the diesel - only the petrol engines. So sounds like the South African plant will produce the diesels.

Ford have been using the 3.0 diesel in the U.S for quite a few years but are going to axe it in the U.S market as its not a popular diesel (due to being a relatively small capacity).

Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

Ford have been using the 3.0 diesel in the U.S for quite a few years but are going to axe it in the U.S market as its not a popular diesel (due to being a relatively small capacity).

They stopped offering the 3.0 diesel in the F-150 back in mid-2021. All the 3.0 diesels in the F-150 would have been manufactured in the UK plant before they stopped producing.

As you point out was due to low sales - very few in the US wanted a small diesel in a big truck.

Sounds like they will miss out on the 3.0 diesel in the New Ranger as well where it is obviously a much better match.

Ironically Ford is going to try and market the F-150 with only the 3.5L V6 petrol on offer here in Australia. Can’t see that being too successful either. The 3.0 diesel powerstroke would be a much better choice here in Australia if they aren’t going to offer the V8’s.

I just had a thought as to why crankshaft failures are not so common in other vehicles with these engines, which could be the way they are plumbed up, using the blanked off port on top for something? As my recently purchased FOMOCO/Jag/LR/Peugeot/Citroen/PSA etc. oil pump for my D3 was leaking oil from the supposedly blanked off port on top, which led to a lot of wasted time and money for my mechanic and I, chasing what looked like a crankshaft seal leak. Unable to claim warranty on that, as no faulty part to return and they don't pay labour either, grrrrr.

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806 - Land Rover Range 2013 autobigraphy sport black wrecking

Reposting this from reddit, D5 TDV6 goes pop:

Was driving my car normally when I heard ticking and a big clunk sound I immediately pulled over. Got the car towed to the dealership they said the bottom of the engine has catastrophic damage and quoted a repair of $47,000 to replace the engine
The car is 2017 model and has done 120,000 km only used for long drives over 100km trips I brought it from the dealership and have full service history

Would it be covered under Australian consumer law since cars shouldn’t just have a major engine damage at 120,000 km specially when you pay over $130,000 for a new car like that

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Originally Posted by PerthDisco

Simon Cotter on Twitter been posting many interesting updates on LC300

https://twitter.com/simoncotter62/st...66465's=12

Loose rubber looks like early production issue IMO. Plastic covers not fitting - yes poor show but for the battery a minor issue.

The "hot V" - yes turbos are hot. I recall pulling the bonnet at night on a SAAB Turbo 1980 and the engine bay was bright red from the very bright red turbo - the whole metal was literally red hot. And Bright Red. IMO: that heat is not from being inside the V. The heat is from the exhaust gases which heated the turbo casings. The wear issue is what is happening to the turbo bearings after the engine is turned off. I presume Toyota have a handle on that issue.

Now those 300s now cost up to 160,000. But the base one GX costs 108,000. Same engine and gearbox, pretty much the same body. IMO the base model is good value if the engine is good. But my Indy LR guy says stay clear of the 300.

The negative on D4s for me, is remote travelling breakdowns. Or "serviceability". I wish there were crate motors for them as well. Since there are not, I will not buy a Defender or any Land Rover, despite their excellence. Because they are not supporting their brand with basic parts, which drives down resale values significantly. Without factory support for the long term reputation of their product, why would I buy another and suffer huge depreciation due to lack of expected support? That lack of ethos that logically runs right through every department in the company, from top to bottom.

Originally Posted by Melbourne Park

Now those 300s now cost up to 160,000. But the base one GX costs 108,000. Same engine and gearbox, pretty much the same body. IMO the base model is good value if the engine is good. But my Indy LR guy says stay clear of the 300.
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The GXL updated model is the best value,by quite a margin,not yet here though.

An Indy LR guy says stay away from a Tojo?
No surprise there,he has probably had many through his workshop.......

Originally Posted by scarry

The GXL updated model is the best value,by quite a margin,not yet here though.

An Indy LR guy says stay away from a Tojo?
No surprise there,he has probably had many through his workshop.......

He stays in touch with what is going on. the 200 4.5 V8 had lots of issues when I bought my Disco ... Toyota eventually resolved most of them. But I'm towing, so that puts things in a different light.

As far as 300s go, there isn't much choice is there? Patrol is being replaced, from my reading of the Defender it has severe limitations and is small for me, the Grenadier is great IMO but not for the city ... the Everest which is smaller but seems capable except for the quality issue and its gearbox. I wonder if the engine is fixed? So no wonder the 300 as so expensive - Toyota can charge a very high price because the competition is weak, and they can rely on reputation, which IMO is falling. The revised models do cost more though ... and IMO the VX is far more city capable than the GXL, because its surround cameras will allow any driver to park it in an underground supermarket car park plus some maybe unnecessary luxuries. But to pay $15k more for surround cameras which all the Prados have, makes me think rip off.

There is lots of talk about issues with the new motor. Dust won't kill the car, but they leak badly via the rear door. That would really annoy me as the car must have been sorted for Australia, surely. Sequential turbo issues, various software CU updates trying to resolve those issues. The oil issues too. In South Africa some owners have got refunds. Toyota stopped production of the 300 series too. Evidently due to failing to properly test the exhaust ... same issue happened with the Hilux and Prado here, Toyota found guilty for a large number of vehicles. Eventually Toyota will sort it out IMO. Hopefully for you the update version will have more issues resolved, so good luck. I don't know what resources my Indy has, but he's well connected IMO. Realistically though, towing over the vehicle's weight is dangerous, and the 300 is lighter. When one adds GVM capacity via spring upgrades, then you loose your motor and drivetrain warranty. Most do that when towing, but it's not worth it IMO. Which really means Grenadier, 79 series, or a USA made big ute. Or Iveco or another type of 4WD "light" truck, all which feature reliability but gutless diesel motors which may be 5 litres but develop 340 Nm torque ...