Thread: 2015 TDV6 Snapped Crank

Originally Posted by Pippin

An oil & filter change is a job likely given to an apprentice to do at a dealer, and it easy to not locate the filter spigot in its location when fitting if you are inexperienced.

Agree to check the engine over closely. 3.0 doesn’t have oil filter with spigot so even more fool proof in theory.

Originally Posted by Pippin

An oil & filter change is a job likely given to an apprentice to do at a dealer, and it easy to not locate the filter spigot in its location when fitting if you are inexperienced.

There is no filter spigot on that model so that’s nothing to do with it. It’s just a rubbish engine design and a percentage of them fail. It’s a sad reality. Sorry for your loss.

Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

There is no filter spigot on that model so that’s nothing to do with it. It’s just a rubbish engine design and a percentage of them fail. It’s a sad reality. Sorry for your loss.

Or just just too hot rodded (and some then like to further tune them). Speaking to a leading WA Indy during the week on this exact subject who made the valid point the 2.7 is a bigger 2.7 and the 3.0 is a smaller 3.0;

2.7HDi/TDV6/2.7TD
Engine configuration & engine displacement
60-degree V6 engine, single- and twin-turbo diesel, 2,720 cc (2.7 L; 166.0 cu in), bore x stroke 81 mm × 88 mm (3.19 in × 3.46 in), compression ratio 17.3:1
140kw

3.0D/TDV6/SDV6
Engine configuration & engine displacement
60-degree V6 engine, twin-turbo diesel, 2,993 cc (3.0 L; 182.6 cu in), bore x stroke 84 mm × 90 mm (3.31 in × 3.54 in), compression ratio 16.4:1
180-190kw

(A tiny bit more bore and stroke)

An extra 273cc for an extra 40-50kw = about 60hp.

If you think getting 50 or 60hp out of a 250 or 300cc motorbike that’s only the realm of a 600cc single or 500cc two stroke (naturally aspirated) unless you only want to make the hp for about 15 minutes.

So the 3.0D has an extra turbo and enhanced injection maybe to extract that big hp jump out of a tiny increase in cc on basically the exact same engine block as the 2.7D. And then LR in their wisdom doubled the service interval from the 2.7D.

I would never be tuning even more power out of it. Otherwise known in the motor game as a hand grenade.

I remember the Caterpillar 3208 TA V8 had a wonderful performance and reputation as a high performance marine diesel recreation engine. Over the years out of the same block the HP stepped up from 350 to 435 and finally in its final years over 500hp at which point it was a hand grenade and discontinued. (Non TA versions went forever at 200hp in commercial boats) Along the way head gaskets and other components were updated for the power but in the end you can’t get any more juice out of the orange. And that’s a 10.4 litre 900kg engine! The recreational engine rating being anticipated to do no more than 100-300 hours per year so a rebuild in 10 years approx.

Originally Posted by M005

Thanks all & for the link TuffRR.

I'm second owner, but given cost will be pushing LR Hard.

Haven't yet been able to find a 3.0 'short' or 'crate' engine anywhere - do such things exist?

Range Rov in Melbourne do replacement engines - likely a lot cheaper than through LR. Not 100% on details or cost but they are highly recommended by most.

Originally Posted by M005

Thanks all & for the link TuffRR.

I'm second owner, but given cost will be pushing LR Hard.

Haven't yet been able to find a 3.0 'short' or 'crate' engine anywhere - do such things exist?

Really bad outcome. But place in Sydney doing 12k exchange. You fit it and your other bits to it. Read through the thread SDV6 catastrophic failure. SDV6 are same engine as your TDV6 just tuned different. There’s a link in there. Good luck. But like others before me have a good read of warranty.

So 86,000 km - does not sound like much but my 2005 D3 2.7 spun the crank bearings at 84,000 km.
That was what seems like 10 years ago
would have thought that Land Rover would have progressed in 10 years.
or is this family of engine just not suited to this chassis.

Do Territories or Jags with the same issue ?

Originally Posted by rdenyer

So 86,000 km - does not sound like much but my 2005 D3 2.7 spun the crank bearings at 84,000 km.
That was what seems like 10 years ago
would have thought that Land Rover would have progressed in 10 years.
or is this family of engine just not suited to this chassis.

Do Territories or Jags with the same issue ?

I've not heard of Territories having issues and we dint get a Jag with a TDV6 fitted as far as i'm aware, in the UK they use Jags for a donor vehicle.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

I've not heard of Territories having issues and we dint get a Jag with a TDV6 fitted as far as i'm aware, in the UK they use Jags for a donor vehicle.

Our Jags certainly did/do have the 2.7 Twin Turbo TDV6 and the 3.0 SDV6

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