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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    D4 plus Caravan, minus an alternator and 1,300kms to home.

    Hi folks, this is an incident that occurred just before Christmas to an AULRO member, penglish.

    penglish was enjoying some holiday time with his family but as he pulled up at a fuel bowser at the Pimba Roadhouse ( just south of Woomera ) and turned the ignition off, he sees a red light on the dash a split second before he turned the ignition off.

    So he turns the ignition back on and sure enough, the battery light comes on.

    After some investigating, he finds the alternator was no longer charging.

    He is towing a caravan, and is 1,300kms from home, literally in the middle of nowhere.

    After making some enquiries, it is going to cost him $800 to have the D4 towed to Port Augusta, and he would have to leave his family and caravan at the road house.

    After making numerous enquiries about the availability of an alternator in port Augusta, he found there was not only none available there, he could not locate one even in Adelaide. Even Land Rover Adelaide did not have the part in stock. It was 30 December so most places were also closed.

    So after a call to me, and told me he had a 2,000w Honda generator, and a battery charger in the caravan. Plus one of those cigarette plug LED volt meters.

    penglish rewired his USI-160 isolator, so that all his batteries ( cranking battery, auxiliary battery and two house batteries in his caravan ) were now all linked together and spent the night in a local caravan park, on a powered site in Woomera.

    The following morning, with all four batteries charged, penglish set off to Port Augusta, 188kms away. He made it to Port Augusta with the cranking battery at 11.0 volts.

    In Port Augusta, he bought the biggest battery charger he could get. A 21 amp charger. He also bought a new cranking battery, just incase the now old one, didn’t make it.

    In Port Augusta, penglish used his portable gen to power both the caravan battery charger and new battery charger. Running them for 3 hours, before proceeding on to Morgen, some 287kms.

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    In Morgan, he stayed at another powered site, using both chargers to recharge all his batteries overnight.

    The following day, he drove 226kms to Redcliff, where he spent another 3 hours recharging all his batteries before continuing 177kms to Hopeton, and another night at a powered site.

    The following day was a 385kms drive from Hopeton to Melbourne and home at last, where he could finally get the alternator repaired.

    The new battery charger cost $229, the new cranking battery was $329 and the alternator repair was $1,100.
    Glad it was fixed, noted you wrote alternator repair and not replace, a new genyine denso is about 680 bucks, cheaper than a rewind and diode replacement surely. Btw i like the idea of having the genny running and charging batteries whilst driving, but probably not the safest way to do it. So recharging batteries at powered campsites is a great solution. Reminds me of that movie the Martian where he drives the rover 3500miles to the resupply ship. Well done Tim and penglish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    at least the honda was reliable
    lol. I pulled a Honda mower out from under the house yesterday. Not done a thing for nearly 5 years. Dry fuel tank. Filled it with fuel. With limited confidence pulled the rope. With a moments stiction a worry, first pull the thing started. Has a more reliable small engine been made? Ever?
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    I did not read it as generator running whilst driving,......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    lol. I pulled a Honda mower out from under the house yesterday. Not done a thing for nearly 5 years. Dry fuel tank. Filled it with fuel. With limited confidence pulled the rope. With a moments stiction a worry, first pull the thing started. Has a more reliable small engine been made? Ever?
    You haven’t mowed your lawn in 5 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    lol. I pulled a Honda mower out from under the house yesterday. Not done a thing for nearly 5 years. Dry fuel tank. Filled it with fuel. With limited confidence pulled the rope. With a moments stiction a worry, first pull the thing started. Has a more reliable small engine been made? Ever?
    Mine is over 25 yrs old, starts first time every time, never had an issue.
    Last place was 1/2 acre, this place almost 1,so has done some work.

    Back on topic,the owner of the vehicle was lucky the alternator failed the way it did.If it had seized,for what ever reason, or had a mechanical failure, the vehicle would not have been drivable.They can also short out at times, maybe the wires could be disconnected from it, and the vehicle still driven, maybe not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Briar View Post
    What about if I only have an SC80 on my Traxide system?
    Hi Briar, while a D3 would be difficult to bridge batteries, but a D4 would be easy.

    With either the SC80 or the DT90 fitted, simply disconnect the cable running between the circuit breaker and the auxiliary battery’s positive ( + ) terminal, at the circuit breaker.

    Take the cover off the cranking battery compartment and loosen one of the bolts connecting cables to the cranking battery’s positive ( + ) terminal clamp.

    You would not remove the bolt, just loosen it.

    Then, as the lead from the auxiliary battery’s positive ( + ) terminal has a 5mm eye terminal on it, you can not fit the bolt on the cranking battery’s clamp through this as the bolt is an 8M bolt.

    So simply loosen the bolt enough to allow the terminal on the auxiliary battery’s cable to be pushed under the edge of the terminals connected to the cranking battery’s positive ( + ) terminal clamp and tighten the bolt up so it holds the terminal in place.

    As long as this is a tight fit, the cable will stay in place until the alternator is fixed. In the meantime, all the batteries will remain connected while drive and charging.



    BTW, Briar did you get up the Tamborine Mountain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    They can also short out at times, maybe the wires could be disconnected from it, and the vehicle still driven, maybe not?
    Its not easy to disconnect the cable from the D4's alternator and the other end is joined to the starter cable at the starter motor which is why I fitted a dedicated alternator power cable to my D4 when I had it. The dedicated alternator cable was connected to the battery via a switchable circuit breaker to allow the alternator to be isolated if it shorted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hogarthde View Post
    I did not read it as generator running whilst driving,......
    You did. It happens regularly to charge batteries, cool the van before stopping at night...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    lol. I pulled a Honda mower out from under the house yesterday. Not done a thing for nearly 5 years. Dry fuel tank. Filled it with fuel. With limited confidence pulled the rope. With a moments stiction a worry, first pull the thing started. Has a more reliable small engine been made? Ever?
    Briggs & Stratton side valve perhaps.

    At about age 12 I took the head off ours with an adjustable shifter to ‘see what was in there’ not knowing what a side valve was but luckily that is what it was. Dad was not happy to say the least but slapped it back on and did up bolts and didn’t miss a beat thereafter.

    Case in point any engine putting out low power per cc with no concern of fuel economy can be made to be pretty reliable.

    Only a very few lawn mower engines would ever receive an oil change in 20+ years in my estimation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Hi Briar, while a D3 would be difficult to bridge batteries, but a D4 would be easy.

    With either the SC80 or the DT90 fitted, simply disconnect the cable running between the circuit breaker and the auxiliary battery’s positive ( + ) terminal, at the circuit breaker.

    Take the cover off the cranking battery compartment and loosen one of the bolts connecting cables to the cranking battery’s positive ( + ) terminal clamp.

    You would not remove the bolt, just loosen it.

    Then, as the lead from the auxiliary battery’s positive ( + ) terminal has a 5mm eye terminal on it, you can not fit the bolt on the cranking battery’s clamp through this as the bolt is an 8M bolt.

    So simply loosen the bolt enough to allow the terminal on the auxiliary battery’s cable to be pushed under the edge of the terminals connected to the cranking battery’s positive ( + ) terminal clamp and tighten the bolt up so it holds the terminal in place.

    As long as this is a tight fit, the cable will stay in place until the alternator is fixed. In the meantime, all the batteries will remain connected while drive and charging.



    BTW, Briar did you get up the Tamborine Mountain?
    Thanks Tim

    Yes, did get up Tamborine Mountain but didn't go to DCS. Stinking hot day, even up there. After a couple of walks, wife wanted to go back to Air Con. I checked the morning I went up, and no one wanted any specific questions asked of DCS so I didn't feel compelled to go. Curtis Falls and the Skywalk at Tamborine Mountain are nice walks.
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