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Thread: How Many Hours to Remove an 2014 TDV6 Alternator

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    Have you checked your join of the LIN wire?
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    LIN Wire

    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Have you checked your join of the LIN wire?
    Yes have done a continuity check and I can measure a voltage when the ignition is on.

    Things have gone to a mystery phase. When I apply 12V connected via a globe to the B+ terminal and ground I have continuity, reversed polarity there is none.

    Using a multimeter set on diode check connected between B+ and ground there are milli volt values displayed regardless of the polarity of the connections. Diode checking of individual diodes shows inconsistently in milli volt values.

    A new alternator appears to be on the cards as I cant identify the Part No for the diode mounting plate.

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    Gravy, there was a thread on here not long ago where someone identified parts and suppliers if that helps.

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    I just went and found it. It was your thread, good luck mate,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy View Post
    Using a multimeter set on diode check connected between B+ and ground there are milli volt values displayed regardless of the polarity of the connections. Diode checking of individual diodes shows inconsistently in milli volt values.
    Did you take into account that half of the diodes are for positive and the others negative?
    To test individual diodes the wires have to be removed but you can't test the avalanche voltage without having a variable voltage supply to cause them to reverse conduct when the trigger voltage is reached. The trigger voltage is around 30V when new but slowly lowers.
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    Diode Checking

    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Did you take into account that half of the diodes are for positive and the others negative?
    To test individual diodes the wires have to be removed but you can't test the avalanche voltage without having a variable voltage supply to cause them to reverse conduct when the trigger voltage is reached. The trigger voltage is around 30V when new but slowly lowers.
    I had not taken this fully into account, however I knew that avalanche diodes had to be triggered similar to a zener. I have assumed that measurements for all pairs of diodes would be similar.

    Maybe the auto elec can fully test the alternator, I will find out tomorrow.

    The Denso Part No for the rectifier is 0215807310, however I cant find an Aus supplier.

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    Zener = avalanche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravy View Post
    Firstly let me clear one issue, the alternator fitted to my 2014 build L319 Discovery is Denso Part Number AH22-10300-AC, 10 42 10 2421 this cross references to Denso DAN 1105 which is a 150 Amp unit.
    The cross-reference is wrong as the Denso number should be DAN1112, being the 180A version.
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    Alternator Identification

    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    The cross-reference is wrong as the Denso number should be DAN1112, being the 180A version.
    The Part No on the label attached to my alternator is 10 42 10 2421, which directly cross references to a Denso DAN 1105 which is rated 150A.

    Denso DAN 1112 cross references to Part No 10 42 10 6420 which is rated 180A.

    I am of the opinion DAN 1112 may have been fitted to the V8 engine.

    Reading through the posts on the web on this subject is a minefield. I have based my statements on the label attached to the alternator fitted to my vehicle, I believe it is the original fitment.

    I have purchased a replacement alternator from a Launceston Tasmania Auto Electrician for $485 which is a Denso knockoff. Time will be the deciding factor to prove its quality and performance.

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    What rating is marked on your original alternator? The MY10 3.0 D4 had 180A which appeared to continue to include MY14 but thereafter a different specification, possibly reducing to the 150A version.

    The 220A 4.4TDV8 alternator can be fitted if a little material is removed from the mounting bracket to accommodate the slightly larger alternator and the 4.4's fixed pulley is swapped for the 3.0's free-wheeling pulley.
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