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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabsky View Post
    I found a new original one in Europe.
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    They even look the same. The same type of marking with the difference that the new one was produced in 2022
    Hang on - you say the new one is an original and made in 2022 - wasn't the 3.0 TDV6 used in LRs, Jags, Citreons etc stopped in around 2018. So if made in 2022 not likely to be an original. All later 3.0 cranks would have been for the Ford Powerstroke engine in the Ford F150 - it has a crank with thicker journals so not compatiable with the older 3.0s.
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    Its not inconceivable that the cranks are still be made as spare parts considering the incidence of failure diminishing stocks of spares and how recently the engines were fitted new. However I would have preferred an obvious difference but there could be differences not externally discernible.
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    3.0 TDV6 broken crankshaft / engine rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by Fabsky View Post
    They even look the same. The same type of marking with the difference that the new one was produced in 2022
    Fabsky- can you please post a photo of the markings on both ends of the crankshaft (front and rear) for both the original and new crankshaft.

    You may have confirmed the new modified Powerstroke crank can be fitted to the older 3.0TDV6.

    Ford also changed the bearing material spec for the Powerstroke version as well.

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    Are you going to re-use the conrods for #1 & #2, being on that part of the shaft that ran with only 1 main bearing? I'd be concerned that they might have bent.
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    3.0 TDV6 broken crankshaft / engine rebuild

    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    All later 3.0 cranks would have been for the Ford Powerstroke engine in the Ford F150 - it has a crank with thicker journals so not compatiable with the older 3.0s.
    Not sure where you read this, but I recall an article where Ford claimed the the changes made to the rotating components (namely the crankshaft) would also flow through to the last of the LR engines.

    At least this was the claim made during the period when the Powerstroke was being made for the US F-150 (before it was discontinued) and which overlapped with the last of the LR supplied engines.

    If true, they would still need to supply spare crankshafts for the US market for some time, and would then mean they are still available for the LR engines.

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    Crankshaft Images

    The more pictures I see, the greater my heart palpitations. For a diesel engine with its associated high compression ratio the crank strength looks under done. Hope mine is going to remain in one piece, certainly not going to enter any drag races i am into 200K numbers now so maybe I have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDB View Post
    Not sure where you read this, but I recall an article where Ford claimed the the changes made to the rotating components (namely the crankshaft) would also flow through to the last of the LR engines.

    At least this was the claim made during the period when the Powerstroke was being made for the US F-150 (before it was discontinued) and which overlapped with the last of the LR supplied engines.

    If true, they would still need to supply spare crankshafts for the US market for some time, and would then mean they are still available for the LR engines.
    Better still - that power stroke motor is in the Ford Ranger
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck View Post
    Better still - that power stroke motor is in the Ford Ranger
    True - but we don’t know if Ford Australia (lead engineer for the Ranger) made any further changes to the motor after Ford US stopped using it in the F-150. I suspect it is the same crank though (but we all know what they say about never assume anything).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabsky View Post
    Hi guys, small update. Search for the crankshaft in AU with no results. I found a new original one in Europe. The parcel was delivered last Thursday (8 days from placing the order) plus some few parts from au as well 😎




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    Did you try an Australian Land Rover distributor for the crankshaft? (who sells the vehicles and the genuine parts)
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    Now: MY13 D4 TDV6. "E" rear diff. Cambo's magic Engine & Auto Tune. 1968 Austin 1800 Mk1 auto (my 5th)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDB View Post
    Fabsky- can you please post a photo of the markings on both ends of the crankshaft (front and rear) for both the original and new crankshaft.

    You may have confirmed the new modified Powerstroke crank can be fitted to the older 3.0TDV6.

    Ford also changed the bearing material spec for the Powerstroke version as well.

    There you go..


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    All shell journal dimensions are the same as those of the old crankshaft.

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