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  1. 27th April 2023, 02:18 PM #1
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    New 3L engine

    I’m sure it has been asked but has anyone managed to get their hands on a current 3l engine from a ranger?

    Would be an amazing stroke of good luck if this became a replacement option.

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  2. 27th April 2023, 05:00 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_Jamo View Post
    I’m sure it has been asked but has anyone managed to get their hands on a current 3l engine from a ranger?

    Would be an amazing stroke of good luck if this became a replacement option.

    Rich
    I think the only worthwhile bits we may be able to use is the block/heads assy, otherwise known as a "long" motor, assuming it will still bolt up to the ZF transmission. There appears to be far too many changes to the ancilliaries (turbo/intake/water pump etc) to use it as a straight up swap.

    Having said that, the long motor would be fine for us as we'd fit our own stuff anyway.
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  3. 27th April 2023, 05:46 PM #3
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    Hopefully a wrecker gets one soon like all4x4 and does the experiment
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  4. 27th April 2023, 06:49 PM #4
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    The issue may be that the block has different casting and thus some ancillaries may not fit to swap over. Time will tell I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    The issue may be that the block has different casting and thus some ancillaries may not fit to swap over. Time will tell I guess
    That would be my concern also, surely they have made changes to the casting by this generation of the motor.
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    An interesting point for me at least, about this new 3.0 V6 Ranger engine, is that obviously FORD decided to retain the design/manufacturing Rights to it when they sold Jaguar/RR/LR to TATA.

    It appears they recognised all its virtues and thus decided to retain the Rights for future use.... now in the new Ranger and Everest albeit with a few subtle changes...... a crankshaft being one of them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    An interesting point for me at least, about this new 3.0 V6 Ranger engine, is that obviously FORD decided to retain the design/manufacturing Rights to it when they sold Jaguar/RR/LR to TATA.

    It appears they recognised all its virtues and thus decided to retain the Rights for future use.... now in the new Ranger and Everest albeit with a few subtle changes...... a crankshaft being one of them...
    I wouldn’t read too much into it. They would have retained rights to everything and anything they’ve invested in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    An interesting point for me at least, about this new 3.0 V6 Ranger engine, is that obviously FORD decided to retain the design/manufacturing Rights to it when they sold Jaguar/RR/LR to TATA.

    It appears they recognised all its virtues and thus decided to retain the Rights for future use.... now in the new Ranger and Everest albeit with a few subtle changes...... a crankshaft being one of them...
    It was always a Ford / PSA engine, not a Jaguar / Land Rover engine.
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    New 3L engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Discodicky View Post
    An interesting point for me at least, about this new 3.0 V6 Ranger engine, is that obviously FORD decided to retain the design/manufacturing Rights to it when they sold Jaguar/RR/LR to TATA.

    It appears they recognised all its virtues and thus decided to retain the Rights for future use.... now in the new Ranger and Everest albeit with a few subtle changes...... a crankshaft being one of them...
    Originally the engine was a joint development and production project between Ford and PSA to be used across multiple makes and models - with Ford manufacturing the engines in the UK.

    From around 2012 PSA went their own way with their own development and production of their version of the 3.0 Hdi engine, but Ford continued to manufacture the engines for JLR. That contract to supply JLR ended in 2020 and the UK engine plant was subsequently shut down.

    Ford, who always owned the rights to the engine, then shifted manufacture to an engine plant in South Africa for the new Ranger, Everest, and VW Amarok. No doubt backed by the confidence of the modifications made when they put the engine in the 2018-2020 F-150.

    But yes - they must recognise it is a great engine and being part of the global Ranger sales going to 180 markets it is a big vote in confidence.
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