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    My garage ceiling is 2630mm, and the floor is 100mm steel reinforced 20MPa concrete - so also looks doable.

    Would I spend $5K to be able to remove the body at home? Hmmm…..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoDB View Post
    My garage ceiling is 2630mm, and the floor is 100mm steel reinforced 20MPa concrete - so also looks doable.

    Would I spend $5K to be able to remove the body at home? Hmmm…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
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    Thanks guys for the spirited interest and effort here.

    I plan to build a garage and have always wanted a hoist to be able to easily service my cars. To that point, I don't want a huge building and may end up height restricted if I put a carport on top.

    This lift gives some options and if I'm going to do it I should at least explore what is the worst case need for a hoist as I plan to keep my D4 (still got my D2 also) for a while. As for the power stuff for the pump I suspect that can be cleared up with the importer. I would also suspect a 15A outlet and 25A rated circuit woud be required. I am also interested in this unit as it can be stowed away if required.

    My initial garage plans look like the below utilising street access to carport. I would need to tweak the carport floor height to get a decent workshop ceiling clearance underneath.

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    Looking at a hoist - how high for a D4 body off?

    There are other similar units on the market that you can compare with as well.

    AutoLift 167212E - 2.73T Lifting - Movable 2 Post Car Hoist

    YL-130 Low Profile 3 Ton Low Car Hoist Semi Portable Suitable For Workshop With Low Ceiling Height - Aussie Car Hoist

    A full height 2 post hoist would be best as this would also allow you to lift the full vehicle - which you are more likely to do much more often.

    Not sure the total floor area, but if you could leave half fully open in one bay, and just add a mezzanine floor over the other half you could have more options and fit a full size hoist.

    I have been working on my own workshop design for some time now - but have issues with set backs, maximum roof heights, and resulting possible width of the workshop.

    This is about the lowest and narrowest 2 post clear floor hoist that I have come across that would get away with a little over 3.7m ceiling height and still be able to lift a D3/D4 so you can walk under it.

    AutoLift 6214a - Clearfloor 2 Post Hoist -Maximum 3.8T

    BendPak have a similar sized hoist:

    BendPak XPR-10AS 2 Post 4.5t

    If you can leave half fully open and get more than 4m ceiling height then the Molnar CM245-AS in its lowest height and narrow option would be good:

    2 Post Asymmetric 4.5t Car Hoist | Molnar Hoists & Lifts

    Be mindful if looking at a full size hoist to lift a D3/D4 that the rear hoist lifting points are well inside the body and so you need to make sure the arms are long enough. The centre of gravity is also back a bit, close to the B pillar and near where the centre body mount bolts are. If lifting with the CoG at the hoist centreline you need longer arms to get to the front lifting point.


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    you can buy old (non clear floor) type hoists quite cheaply, the post will be a lot shorter than the clear floor models. I've seen them for less than $1000 often. they probably need new brass nuts ... or the cables are old. but for non-regulator home use ... who cares. You don't need to get them certified. I just used a Vevor pump system that was $270 including delivery to convert the hoist here to 240volts (from 3 phase).

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    is this is exactly what you are looking at buying ??

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    I couldn’t see anywhere what the floor spec needed to be to mount it anywhere.
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    Looking at a hoist - how high for a D4 body off?

    For all the spiel on the hoist design process, they are a bit vague on the info regarding the concrete floor.

    The main home page states minimum 100mm for the 4T two post hoists, and 125mm for the 4.5T, but preferably 150mm. But no spec on concrete strength.

    However, the installation manual for the HAPP95 states minimum 200mm, but then shows a diagram stating 250mm and >25MPa.

    https://happ.com.au/doc/happ%2095%20Manual%20va.pdf

    The same specs and diagram is shown in the 4T HAPP40 manual as well - which contradicts the home page info. The 2 post base plate sizing looks common across the full range.

    They do sell a 700x700x16mm large base plate kit that can be used to spread the load over 4 times the footprint. And even have a stabilising bar that could also be used if the large base plate is an overkill.

    Also check your current slab design - mine is 100mm thick but has a 500mm deep by 450mm wide footings running not only around the perimeter of all the floors, but also through the centrelines of the floor (in both directions) including the garage. Which means a 2 post hoist could be bolted directly over these footings.

    They do have design engineers and so could probably confirm if you contact them.

    What I like about the design is depending on the accessories fitted to the car, it could lift a complete D3/D4 (although I would prefer a min 3.5-4T rating). You could even lay down a concrete pad outside for use when weather permits, and still remove and store indoors, plus then set up a second mounting point inside the garage for lower height lifts.

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