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Thread: Diesel vs Petrol

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    mittadisco Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveMyV8County View Post
    It comes back to the same equation anyway - buy a V8 Series II and get incredible value for money (but difficult resale)

    Despite better fuel economy, I'm unconvinced that the diesels are better for the planet than gas-guzzling petrol V8s or V6s. Those nasty particulates worry me...

    Chris
    1. what model price should one be looking at for a V8 Disco? Auto/manual?

    2. Which is better for the environment? Petrol or diesel motors? Europeans still love their diesels... and what of global use of oil - diesel will surely save? genuine q - I just haven't looked into it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mittadisco View Post
    1. what model price should one be looking at for a V8 Disco? Auto/manual?

    2. Which is better for the environment? Petrol or diesel motors? Europeans still love their diesels... and what of global use of oil - diesel will surely save? genuine q - I just haven't looked into it...
    euros love diesels they get long range. not needed but petrol is over $2.00 litre.

    Michael.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mittadisco View Post
    1. what model price should one be looking at for a V8 Disco? Auto/manual?

    2. Which is better for the environment? Petrol or diesel motors? Europeans still love their diesels... and what of global use of oil - diesel will surely save? genuine q - I just haven't looked into it...
    There no manual V8 Disco3 available so that's an easy question to answer

    And the Europeans love diesel because it is more efficient (and therefore cheaper) and because it costs less than petrol (again therefore cheaper!)

    As for diesel vs petrol in terms of global efficiency, greenhouse gas emissions etc – diesel is better (low sulphur versions anyway) as it is less refined (therefore less energy input) and it is more efficient so less CO2 total emissions… but is it the global saviour? No

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    Quote Originally Posted by mittadisco View Post
    1. what model price should one be looking at for a V8 Disco? Auto/manual?
    Will vary depending on year and kms. I'd look at the news.com.au classifieds (can access Red Book values from there if you click on Sell My Car), carsales.com.au and your local rag. I've never owned one but if I did I would probably choose the auto.

    Example from the Red Book:

    2000 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY

    II 00.5MY Wagon 4dr Man 5sp 4x4 4.0i 740kg (Rel. Jan)
    Average kilometres 140,000 - 170,000
    Price range - private sale* $10,800 - $13,700
    Price range - trade-in $8,100 - $9,500
    Price when new $45,463
    Red Book code LAND00AG
    Keep this code for your finance/insurance company.

    II 00.5MY Wagon 4dr Td5 Auto 4sp 4x4 2.5DT 692kg (Rel. Jan)
    Average kilometres 140,000 - 170,000
    Price range - private sale* $13,700 - $17,000
    Price range - trade-in $10,500 - $12,200
    Price when new $49,314
    Red Book code LAND00AM
    Keep this code for your finance/insurance company.

    * Important note: Dealers' retail prices will be higher than these private sale prices because they must prepare a vehicle thoroughly, both mechanically and aesthetically, and they provide a warranty.


    Quote Originally Posted by mittadisco View Post
    2. Which is better for the environment? Petrol or diesel motors? Europeans still love their diesels... and what of global use of oil - diesel will surely save? genuine q - I just haven't looked into it...
    Let's see if I can set the cat among the pigeons here... not trying to hijack your thread Aedo but it does fit the title.

    "... particulate pollution (is) the 'new asbestos' for its ability to cause serious illness and death."
    http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/F3toM...tachment_7.pdf
    (Oh no! That's a pic of a D3 at the end of the doc!!)

    In no more than 100 words, discuss...

  5. #35
    mittadisco Guest
    Thanks LMC.

    So diesel enines should not be driven by people who spend most of their time in cities. For those living in thecountry - well keep up using a diesel. Diesel should be used if you want to reduce your CO2 print. Having been many times to Delhi - I'd much rather diesel wasn't used - talk about diesel pollution!

    Diesel Fuel Primer
    "A Costly Journey
    In the end, soot travels far and wide to affect thousands of communities and millions of people, including you and your family. It begins in the combustion of an engine and ends up in the innermost reaches of individuals' lungs. Society pays a heavy price for soot's journey. Billions of dollars in health care costs, the loss of work and school days, and the loss of human lives create an enormous burden for society to shoulder. This burden is not a necessary one, however, as it can be lifted from off our backs with the help of stricter air regulations and cleaner engine technology."

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    Each litre of petrol burnt generates 2.3kg of co2. Each litre of diesel burnt generates 2.7kg. LPG is 1.5kg.

    Diesel can lower your carbon footprint, but it would depend on what you were doing.

    Also not that most diesels being used now in passenger cars have cats and particulate filters.
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    OK - decided on petrol. Now just have to wait until they build it.

    Thanks for all your input!!!

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