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    i took that statement as being about the ''rim'' width?
    wheel to me = rim
    tyre to me = tyre
    as they usuall relate inches to rims and metric to tyres.
    but being the rta who knows.

    cheers phil

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    Interesting discussion.

    Upon strolling through the internet i found that the D3 runs exactly the same 5/120 PCD and 72.5mm bore spacing than the E36 bmw (3 series 1991-1999) - but uses M12 size bolts, so they would need some reaming. The X5 and X3 use the M14 so they would be a better bet. These rims would be a good low cost option for a 17" rim set - but you would have to get rid of the BMW badge cos it just looks wrong

    If these work, also the humble commodore runs this exact PCD and centre bore spacing, which means all the young 18yo who swap thier "gay" 17x8 rims for cool 20x8 rims will mean there is an abundance of these rims available also. Ive prob got my sons old holden 17x8 rims floating around also. I know some of the designs may be average but painted black you wont notice them, and they will be perfect for some nice 265/70/17 off road tyres.

    Graeme - do you have a link for those extended shank nuts?

    Heres a list of the bmw models and offsets that are relevant.

    1 Series E81/82/87/88 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 35-45

    3 Series E30 M3 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 27-30

    3 Series E36 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 30-47
    3 Series E36 M3 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 35-47

    3 Series E46 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 30-47
    3 Series E46 M3 = PCD 5x120 centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. Fronts ET 30-47, Rears ET 20-27,

    3 Series E90/91/92/93 = PCD 5x120, Centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 30-45
    3 Series E90/92/93 M3 = PCD 5x120, Centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 34-37

    5 Series E28 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 18-25

    5 Series E34 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 13-20
    5 Series E34 M5 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread.

    5 Series E39 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 74.0mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 15-25 (would need hubcentric spacer 72.5-74mm)
    5 Series E39 M5 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5.0mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 15-25

    5 Series E60/61 = PCD 5x120 centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 15-32
    5 Series E60 M5 (Saloon) = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 12-32
    5 Series E61 M5 (Touring) = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 12-32

    6 Series E24 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread.

    6 Series E63/64 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 14-20
    6 Series E63/64 M6 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 12-20

    7 Series E32 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 19-26

    7 Series E38 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 13-25

    7 Series E65/66/67/68 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M14x1.5 bolt thread. ET 15-25

    8 Series E31 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread.

    X3 E83 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M14x1.5 bolt thread. ET 40-45

    X5 E53 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M14x1.5 bolt thread. ET 40-45

    X5 E70 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 74.0mm and M14x1.25 bolt thread. ET 37-53 (would need hubcentric spacer 72.5-74mm)

    X6 E71 = PCD 5x120, centre bore FRONT 74.0mm, centre bore REAR 72.5mm and M14x1.5 bolt thread. (would need hubcentric spacer 72.5-74mm - on front only)


    Z3 E36 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 30-40

    Z3 M Coupe/M Roadster = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread.

    Z4 E85 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread. ET 45-52

    Z8 E52 = PCD 5x120, centre bore 72.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread.

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    From an earlier post...
    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    I ordered the 1.4" ones - centre picture.

    14mm x 1.50 E/T Ultra Mag Seat Lug Nuts
    The load rating of rims other than X5 is likely to be insufficient.

    The X5 centre caps can readily be disassembled to remove the BMW logo.

    X5 rims appear on ebay from time to time and at a reasonable price usually.

    Edit: I bought 2 ebay sets, both from Tempe Tyres. For the 2nd set they replaced the BMW logo disc with their own Starcraft disc after I asked if they could supply non-BMW caps.
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    If these work, also the humble commodore runs this exact PCD and centre bore spacing, which means all the young 18yo who swap thier "gay" 17x8 rims for cool 20x8 rims will mean there is an abundance of these rims available also. Ive prob got my sons old holden 17x8 rims floating around also. I know some of the designs may be average but painted black you wont notice them, and they will be perfect for some nice 265/70/17 off road tyres.

    I tried to source a set not long ago from a local wrecker - they laughed at me said there were VERY FEW around. THE REASON it seams that only the Holden Adventurer has the 17's all the rest 16 inch - So bought aftermarket 17" steel rims for the disco 3 which came with new studs/bolts - VERY HEAVY WHEELS

    dj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    From an earlier post...

    The load rating of rims other than X5 is likely to be insufficient.

    The X5 centre caps can readily be disassembled to remove the BMW logo.

    X5 rims appear on ebay from time to time and at a reasonable price usually.

    Edit: I bought 2 ebay sets, both from Tempe Tyres. For the 2nd set they replaced the BMW logo disc with their own Starcraft disc after I asked if they could supply non-BMW caps.

    Thanx mate.

    what determines load rating is thier a specific code, or just cos it came off a similar weight car

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    The load rating will either be cast into or stamped onto the rim, or documented somewhere by the vehicle or rim manufacturer. I haven't seen documentation for the X5 rims but it has been reported that they are rated at 1000 kg, which is a little less than the D4 rim but a little more than the RRS rim.
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    Hi Graeme, I see you are using X5 rims, how does the load rating compare, I understand the D3 wheels are rated to 940kgs, what are the X5's rating?

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    x5 rim load rating

    Quote Originally Posted by kingo View Post
    Hi Graeme, I see you are using X5 rims, how does the load rating compare, I understand the D3 wheels are rated to 940kgs, what are the X5's rating?
    Brought some but yet to see them. The gent selling said "Had a look and i found on the tyre a rating of 925kg. I hope this helps! cheers"

    This is 15kg less than the "Max Load 940kg" stamped on the inside of the alloy 18" rims on my D3. The term max load is interesting termanology.

    Looking at the rims on ebay for BMW seem to show 4 or more 17" rim styles. I am not sure if they are all the same! Mine are at this link
    I am going to put them on before paying this time after being ripped off by Joel White from sydney sailing with his 640kg rated rims! Mind you the new X5 I just got for $76 for the four they makes them very cheap!

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    Another forum member has fitted that same pattern to his D3.

    Don't forget to get the long shank nuts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Another forum member has fitted that same pattern to his D3.

    Don't forget to get the long shank nuts!
    That would be me.

    so far 10k + they haven't fallen off yet. I've had a few comments about them mainly from ppl noticing the BMW logo in the middle.

    Tho I did do a puncture sidewall after 300km
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