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    New member, Discovery 3 HSE 06 buying advice?

    Hi all,
    i have been lurking around this forum for a week or 2 now trying to digest all the useful info in here. Currently looking at a 06 HSE
    But now i have some questions?

    1.) Should i be concerned that the Automatic transmission was replaced at the 100K service.Apparantly mechanics thought it sounded funny and oil analysis was done and land rover replaced under warranty?

    2.)110,000 klms have been done, will these engines still be good into 200-300 thousand klms?

    3.)Is there any particular defects or things that i should pay special attention too.

    4.)How would i do a complete driver inspection to ensure that all the electronics are still operational,ie all terrain response modes etc, air suspension operational?

    5.) Is there any great difference's between 05,06 models, if so what are the differences?

    i just want to be sure about purchase, alot of money to forgo
    Thanks in advance.

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    Paddy,
    not sure I can answer all your questions but some more general advice. I went through the buying process 6 months ago on a 06 petrol SE that had 35k on the clock. It was through a dealer so I had 3 months to make sure waranty items were sorted. If you are buying privately, I'd be getting a professional assessment done up front and definately as it's done more than 100k as items are starting to wear at that age and maintenance increases.

    If it has a new transmission, that is probably a good thing. Was it replaced with a new or reco transmission?

    The engine is a standard 4l ford engine and there are many yelllow falcons out there with 1mil + on these engines. They are a robust engine and major problems with it should be cheaper to fix than the diesel. A mechanic check can check oil leaks, compression etc. and give you an indication of overall condition.

    Not sure on the HSE version of the 05 or 06 but the SE had some big differences (coil vs air suspension), leather and a few bugs fixed.

    You will certainly get a lot of car for a reasonable price in a 06 HSE. Maintenance costs on Landrovers are high but not unreasonably so when comparing to other prestige cars in similar price ranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashes View Post
    The engine is a standard 4l ford engine and there are many yelllow falcons out there with 1mil + on these engines.
    The Land Rover 4.0 & the Falcon 4.0 are not quite the same engine.

    For starters, one is quite a bit shorter as it's in a V configuration.

    There's not too many 4.0 HSE's around so I would assume it's a TDV6 or petrol V8. Time will only tell how good the engines are when they reach very high Km but the signs are very good IMO.

    The transmission is supposed to be filled for life. Ignore this & have it serviced every 40000km & she'll be fine (unless you're towing 4T all the time).
    Scott

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    oops....I guess you are probably looking at a v8 4.4l petrol

    in which case...dunno

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    It sounds like a good eal.
    The V8 is actually more economical than the V6 and I would go Diesel before the V8 due to fuel and resale etc and for touring range comes into the equation.

    The V8 is the BMW motor I believe and they are bullet proove.

    Look around on car sales and if its the V6, I would pay pittens, my mate gets 25L/100 in town and 16 on highway.

    My 2c worth

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    Quote Originally Posted by big guy View Post
    The V8 is the BMW motor I believe and they are bullet proove.
    The BMW V8 was used in the LM Range Rover. The D3 has the same engine that's used in the Jaguar.
    Scott

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    [QUOTE=paddy119;1129042]Hi all,
    i have been lurking around this forum for a week or 2 now trying to digest all the useful info in here. Currently looking at a 06 HSE
    But now i have some questions?

    1.) Should i be concerned that the Automatic transmission was replaced at the 100K service.Apparantly mechanics thought it sounded funny and oil analysis was done and land rover replaced under warranty?
    No, As Scouse has said, service the Trans, its all they need. They will then last a lot longer.

    2.)110,000 klms have been done, will these engines still be good into 200-300 thousand klms?
    We have 3 or 4 original owners with early build 05MY vehicles that have travelled in excess of 200K km's & to date no "Major" faults.
    We have seen a gearbox or 2 fail due to towing & NO fluid change-but see previous answer.


    3.)Is there any particular defects or things that i should pay special attention too.
    Make sure the vehicle has a full service history & all outstanding campaigns have been attended to. If the vehicle is out & i assume it is out of warranty then the campaign is still free of charge regardless. Get these things attended too.

    4.)How would i do a complete driver inspection to ensure that all the electronics are still operational,ie all terrain response modes etc, air suspension operational?
    Get in & drive the vehicle. Set the vehicle into low range, turn the dial on the terrain response, when selecting mud/ruts in L range the vehicle will lift automatically & turn on HDC. Then drive the vehicle a short distance prefferably in a car park & lift the foot off the accell pedal & the vehicle will make some weird noises...this IS normal as it is the ABS system operating the HDC..it works! The air suspension will 2-3 times up & down & then may need time to cool off, a message will be displayed "Air suspension raising slowly".
    The only other way is to plug in & see if any faults are logged & then rectify them. Maybe get someone to inspect the vehicle for you!?


    5.) Is there any great difference's between 05,06 models, if so what are the differences?
    Not a lot, mainly software updates as the early vehicles were the test dummy's so to speak & in 06 they rectified these slight issues with software being done at the factory & the early ones had 2 campaigns to fix, D034 & D036 from memory. Again check to see if all campaigns are done. Either PM scouse or myself & we can check for you.

    i just want to be sure about purchase, alot of money to forgo
    Thanks in advanceI understand.[/QUOTE]


    Also Big Guy, its a Jaguar V8 4.4Ltr in the D3 not the BMW V8.
    The BMW V8 was only used in the LM Range Rover.


    Paddy, being a HSE it will only be the TDV6 or V8 variant.

    Good luck

    Cheers.

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    Thanks again for all the advice, much appreciated, sorry i should have mentioned it is the TDV6 model HSE

    We have 3 or 4 original owners with early build 05MY vehicles that have travelled in excess of 200K km's & to date no "Major" faultsWere these examples diesels or petrol? i have grown up having diesels and have always believed that oil and filter change every 7500 klms and it will always outlive a petrol motor, but these new direct injection ones i don't know? Am i being sceptical?

    Get in & drive the vehicle. Set the vehicle into low range, turn the dial on the terrain response, when selecting mud/ruts in L range the vehicle will lift automatically & turn on HDC. Then drive the vehicle a short distance prefferably in a car park & lift the foot off the accell pedal & the vehicle will make some weird noises...this IS normal as it is the ABS system operating the HDC..it works! The air suspension will 2-3 times up & down & then may need time to cool off, a message will be displayed "Air suspension raising slowly".I will definately try this thanks

    What is a campaign? Is it a firmware upgrade to the computer or is it a re-call on a defective part? How would i check that all campaigns have been completed?

    Cheers Paddy



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    Hi Paddy,
    3 TDV6 diesel owners & 1 being a V8HSE, Oil changes on thses vehicles are every 12,000Km's or 6Mnths. There is nothing wrong with replacing oil early especially if you are towing. Diesels like fresh oil so it wont harm it.

    Campaigns are just something that LR lets dealers know that there is an upgrade to a possible annoyance(Whether it be software or componentry). Therefore next service apply the campaign to the vehicle so it does not become a problem if it arises.
    This also includes recalls which letters are sent to owners.
    If you are a new owner Advise LR by filling in the paperwork in the service book & sending it in to them. That way if there is a future recall or LR need to advise you of something then they can contact you.

    To find out if your vehicle has not had all the campaigns attended to ring your local LR dealer & advise the last 6 digits of the VIN(Bottom of passneger side W/screen) & they will be able to check on LR's computer..or PM me & i can find out at work.

    Cheers

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    5.) Is there any great difference's between 05,06 models, if so what are the differences?

    Paddy - you might want to check the month of manufacture - they changed from MY06 to MY07 in September. Mine was manufactured in Oct 2006 - and is a MY07. This came with one-touch blinkers, and Euro4 compliant TDV6 motor. This was also the start of the models with an active recall at the moment: one for brakes and one for high pressure fuel pump. The brakes leak engine oil into the brake booster. The HPFP front bearing was of dubious quality/design - and fails, leaking diesel straight onto the turbo. Don't ask me how I know about this latter problem - had it 3 times.

    Where are you located? If you are in Sydney, I'd be happy to show you how they are supposed to work or visit the car with you.

    Cheers,
    Rob

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