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    Yeah he balanced the wheels three times on two machines, checked valves etc and swapped them all off one by one to test on road, he was so convinced it was a balancing thing!

    I'll keep reporting...
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    Update: new lower control arms subdued but didn't eliminate the shudder; rear discs replaced no difference (didn't really expect that to help); wheels were swapped off and it seemed fine on borrowed rims and tyres the but when original wheels/tyres went back on it also seemed fine - What tha? Went ahead with new Cooper LTZs but shudder is still there - double what tha?! That only leaves bearings and steering, both of which are fine according to four different mechanics...

    I'd really rather be spending money on mods than maintenance!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart02 View Post
    Update: new lower control arms subdued but didn't eliminate the shudder; rear discs replaced no difference (didn't really expect that to help); wheels were swapped off and it seemed fine on borrowed rims and tyres the but when original wheels/tyres went back on it also seemed fine - What tha? Went ahead with new Cooper LTZs but shudder is still there - double what tha?! That only leaves bearings and steering, both of which are fine according to four different mechanics...

    I'd really rather be spending money on mods than maintenance!!
    Nice of you to offer,send your money to this moderator before the others put their hands up
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    Nice of you to offer,send your money to this moderator before the others put their hands up
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    Haha you have my word that the minute I have a spare dollar...
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    Stuart.
    Ive been sniffing around on gumtree today seeing whats for sale as one does.
    Was reading this RRS add,it said its just had the hydro bushes done.Never heard of them before,possibly your issue????
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandyAndy View Post
    Stuart.
    Ive been sniffing around on gumtree today seeing whats for sale as one does.
    Was reading this RRS add,it said its just had the hydro bushes done.Never heard of them before,possibly your issue????
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    Thanks - do ppl sometimes refer to the control arm bushes as hydro bushes? But I've not seen them done before 43000 kms!
    Ours were knackered and were obviously amplifying the shudder but they weren't the root of the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart02 View Post
    Thanks - do ppl sometimes refer to the control arm bushes as hydro bushes? But I've not seen them done before 43000 kms!
    I'd guess yes, hydro short for hydrolastic, as per explanation in this thread (post#7):
    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...trol-arms.html
    That does sound like low kms for the control arm bushes.

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    Might I suggest an 'on car' wheel balance. This was the only way of reliably balancing my Nissan wheels and Cooper tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwillo View Post
    Might I suggest an 'on car' wheel balance. This was the only way of reliably balancing my Nissan wheels and Cooper tyres.

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    Thanks - how who and where does that?
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    My tyre shop had the machine. It's a bit scary, the operator sits on the machine and uses his weight to hold a drive wheel against the side of the wheel to balance whilst it is jacked up. Spins your wheel up to a pretty high speed and gets a reading.

    Balances the whole wheel and hub as a unit. Always worked, my model Nissan was apparently notorious for being hard to balance with Cooper tyres.

    If the wheel was correctly balanced it means that the problem must be in the hub assembly, go figure. I never found out why, but it just worked.

    You may need to ask around a couple of places, it was not a tool they used eyery day.

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