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    Smile excessive load on clutchs = dirty fluid = clogged filter = sticky valves

    Haven't had a chance to keep up with this thread, but am keen to see it progressed - Thank you to all the contributors. But,

    I remain in the "must change fluid camp".

    THE500031 - SCREEN FILTER AND GASKET GM 5 SP AUTO BOX L322 M57 3.0L DIESEL - LR Spare Parts - All Land Rover and Range Rover makes

    Can we get these locally?

    I will be changing mine and putting in the closest spec fluid.
    Isn't the same box (valve body, seals, etc) in one commodore model!

    Why doesn't it suffer valve body wear?
    If the problem really is valve body wear (as opposed to the other causes of similar symptoms - like failed filter, hardened seals, etc) why doesn't the sleeve repair succeed?

    I will be dropping the pan off my box soon and might check the valve body for the mysterious wear? I think I will find hardened seals. Anyone keen to attend?

    Stephen - Western Sydney

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    Stephen

    Try Karcraft there in Sydney.Very tech savvy staff and very good prices.

    Contact Karcraft Australia

    If you read thru this post you will see the oils to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat2000 View Post
    Sorry Dan, but we'll have to agree to disagree.

    Do you work for GM or something - I haven't come across such a staunch supported of their gearboxes before.

    As for the manual conversion - each to their own - I much prefer to drive a manual over an auto any day of the week - and I drive a lot of KM both in the city and the country, and I would have my manual Transit van back in a flash over the sludge box dunny door I have to drive now for work.

    I don't think a manual would ruin it - Range Rovers have been available with manual gearboxes before - I have one in the driveway.

    Cheers - Gav
    Thanks Gav.

    No I don't work for GM and I didn't think I was supporting their "gearboxes".

    Yes, I agree to disagree.

    1. Not every td6 has transmission problems as my case proves.
    2. Transmission maintenance every 200k kms + auto v manual.

    The average manual requires a clutch reco every 150k-200k kms.
    The automotive world is littered with various transmission failures. Mitsubishi and most other Japs got all their first runs of 5 speed maunals wrong and spent millions doing factory funded rebuilds that never fixed the issue anyway. Toyota did a recall on their 80s LCs to replace wrongly specced clutch plates.

    If what you are saying is correct then BMW may have stuffed up in their choice of transmission for the td6. I haven't heard about X5s running the same engine/transmission having problems?

    In the dark ages all heavy duty off road equipment had manual transmissions as well. eg Caterpillar ditched manuals in about 1970. Car makers are still persisting. I drive 100k km pa including off road every day, highway every day and often city grid lock as well. There is no way that I'd ever return to a manual if I had the choice. I still have to drive a manual td5 D2 but that is only because I have to - not by choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel View Post
    The automotive world is littered with various transmission failures. Mitsubishi and most other Japs got all their first runs of 5 speed maunals wrong and spent millions doing factory funded rebuilds that never fixed the issue anyway. Toyota did a recall on their 80s LCs to replace wrongly specced clutch plates.
    You think that is bad. Have a look at a Lada 5 speed. Piece of s**t. 5 Gear runs on only 1/2 of actual gear. Rebuilt 4 times ?? Still love my Lada.

    Gary

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel View Post
    Thanks Gav.

    I haven't heard about X5s running the same engine/transmission having problems?

    .

    Well they do, mates diesel 3.0 a 2005 model , full trans rebuild at 130,000km. Evenly quite common according to the repairer.
    We have a 02 X5 4.4 ,[owned from new] had the fluid flushed at 100,000 km, garage was surprised at how little metal came out of it, expected worse!

    Peronally I think the X5 is poorly built, lots of small bits break, Cv boots at 50,00km, water pump, coolant leaks, oil leaks, door locks, Tv screen pixels, informer pixels, pwr steering hoses leak, poor wear on inside of rear tyres, crap ride, jerky controls, poor seats, small boot, transmission problems, Am radio dead, A/C freezes up and lots more..., so don't be too tharsh on the Rangie! & yes I have convinced my wife to change her car & to look at a TDV8 4.4, just trying to find one that isn't black or white....

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazing928;1672190
    We have a 02 X5 4.4 ,[owned from new
    had the fluid flushed at 100,000 km, garage was surprised at how little metal came out of it, expected worse!

    Peronally I think the X5 is poorly built, lots of small bits break, Cv boots at 50,00km, water pump, coolant leaks, oil leaks, door locks, Tv screen pixels, informer pixels, pwr steering hoses leak, poor wear on inside of rear tyres, crap ride, jerky controls, poor seats, small boot, transmission problems, Am radio dead, A/C freezes up and lots more..., so don't be too tharsh on the Rangie! & yes I have convinced my wife to change her car & to look at a TDV8 4.4, just trying to find one that isn't black or white....

    Yep - I think that it goes without stating it that the X5 is crap - after all it is made is USA - is there any USA motor car that is not crap? We're looking out for a tdV8 RR as well. I have a friend that is about to trade in her city car - unfortunately it is black and it is a RR sports. Maybe black could be OK but not a Sport!

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    Who's the best in Sydney

    Hi All,
    Ok I pick my new L322 td6 up on Tuesday . The dealer Mossmsn Toyota is servicing it first but they don't do the auto. Graeme Cooper has been servicing the vehicle since it came out of warranty. Who is the best Landrover Auto people around in Sydney that know these boxes. I want a flush filter and the correct oil with the correct spec. It's done 114,000 ks and running great at the moment. I'm not from Sydney so don't want to get caught.
    Mike

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    Wow td6 with 114k?? where has it been parked?

    late 2005 L322 td6 - - last week I carried out its first auto service since new at 245k km. Owned the truck since new and have done a lot of heavy towing.

    Fluid was clean and filter had a little dark material inside and around magnet.
    Cleaned sump & magnet, replaced filter & fluid with correct spec Valvoline product (non synthetic).

    I don't expect to repeat for another 200k or so kms.

    Like everything on internet - don't believe everything you read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deRanged Rover View Post
    Wow td6 with 114k?? where has it been parked? late 2005 L322 td6 - - last week I carried out its first auto service since new at 245k km. Owned the truck since new and have done a lot of heavy towing. Fluid was clean and filter had a little dark material inside and around magnet. Cleaned sump & magnet, replaced filter & fluid with correct spec Valvoline product (non synthetic). I don't expect to repeat for another 200k or so kms. Like everything on internet - don't believe everything you read.
    That's good to hear.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
    Track Trailer ARN 200-117
    REMLR # 137

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    Hi Defender Mike,
    Rhys at Furious Performance,Brookvale is your man if you want someone that knows these boxes backwards.
    His number is 99074486.

    cheers

    2014 Freelander SE TD4
    2003 Range Rover TD6
    92 disco tdi manual sold
    95 disco tdi auto gone

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