TD6 Shudder problem

Well I would expect that a cylinder balance test would've been carried out around the time the injector issues were being sorted, and current tolerances checked. For example the td5 ECU will log a fault code if any of the cylinders requires a + or - 15 to balance. Even the constant appearance of a 10 or 11 is getting close to investigating oil in the harness or a poor injector coil etc.

Glad it is all fixed, now go and enjoy it!!!

JC

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Originally Posted by uteman

As many will recall this car has been a problem for some time.
The shuder turned out to be from the engine. I had previously had the injectors reconditioned and the car had been to 2 different Land Rover workshops since and their determination was that the engine was OK.
I have now fitted brand new injectors and the car is so smooth now that I am over the moon.
The Bosch ECU manual does state that if you have greater than 15 rpm difference in cylinder speeds at idle that you have a problem. Our car did have greater than that but workshops were not concerned. Now that my Faultmate reads a difference of only 10 rpm at idle that car is like a new one so believe what Bosch say.

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Now isn't this great news? Something that a simple self diagnosis would have determined! And yet when I suggested this at the outset and dared to suggest that your expert transmission specialists with all of their dynotuning and expensive diagnosis equipment didn't know what they were doing, all and sundry were so quick to condemn me as ignorant - hmm, I wonder what those 'stone throwing' experts are now thinking???
Dear, oh dear, I guess these forums continue to be full of experts (in their own eyes).

I guess all the transmission exchanges, torque converter diagnosis, blame of poor transmission designs and similar suggestions will all now disappear into a very quiet oblivion!

The thing that continues to amaze me is that everybody continues to fall for the same old trick and that is to blame the most trivial issues on the most complicated diagnosis rather than starting from the most simple and most obvious.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Now isn't this great news? Something that a simple self diagnosis would have determined! And yet when I suggested this at the outset and dared to suggest that your expert transmission specialists with all of their dynotuning and expensive diagnosis equipment didn't know what they were doing, all and sundry were so quick to condemn me as ignorant - hmm, I wonder what those 'stone throwing' experts are now thinking???
Dear, oh dear, I guess these forums continue to be full of experts (in their own eyes).

I guess all the transmission exchanges, torque converter diagnosis, blame of poor transmission designs and similar suggestions will all now disappear into a very quiet oblivion!

The thing that continues to amaze me is that everybody continues to fall for the same old trick and that is to blame the most trivial issues on the most complicated diagnosis rather than starting from the most simple and most obvious.

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You didn't suggest anything of the sort. Your earlier post said that if he went and bought a Hawkeye then it would tell him what was going on - that was the claim that was disputed, nothing else.

As for what I'm thinking now - I can't say here or I would be sent on a small holiday, but your own words speak volumes about how you think you are superior to everyone else here.

Remember at the end of the day we are all just trying to help each other out as best we can - not every answer is right every time. it's not a game of one-up man ship, you just don't seem to be happy unless your proving other people wrong. To me this now seems to be just a bit sad. I think your attitude would be much better suited to a Toyota forum - everyone there is right all the time - they will always tell you that...

At the end of the day, I'm really glad Uteman got his issues sorted and he is once more happy again with his pride and joy.