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    Hi Chaybra,

    A question for you re the bullbars..
    Can you find out the distance between the bottom bar and the top centre piece. I have a pair of Fyrlts that are 215mm tall,that I want to put on my rangy.So I'd need say 220mm space for them.
    Thanks

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by disco gazza View Post
    Hi Chaybra,

    A question for you re the bullbars..
    Can you find out the distance between the bottom bar and the top centre piece. I have a pair of Fyrlts that are 215mm tall,that I want to put on my rangy.So I'd need say 220mm space for them.
    Thanks

    cheers
    The fiddly bits of the design is the latest stage of development, from all the feed back I have received from the manufacture small changes like that will be no problem.

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    I have re-contacted the manufacture to bring up some of the questions raised, basically it is a lengthy process to say the least, aprox 6 months from initial design stages - 3D laser scans of the vehicle - cad development - constructing a prototype - shipped interstate for impact testing - second stage prototype made and fitted to vehicle and then to manufacture and develop finite changes for the specifics of each model eg camera mounts etc.

    All up he has given a rough cost of about $2g, however that is still going to change, either up or down is anyones guess. I will be taking my vehicle in to his workshop to have the bumpers removed and a closer look to get a better idea. I have also contacted Land Rover and have confirmed that the bumper cross member support (Big metal bit behind the bumper bolted to the subframe) is the same part number from 03 - 12 (cost reduction again)

    the weight of the patrol bull bar shown in the pictures is 65Kg and lighter again if you opt for alloy made for those worried about the axle load limits in the TDv8

    so again, ill keep you posted on progress after the meeting

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    Quote Originally Posted by disco gazza View Post
    Hi Chaybra,

    A question for you re the bullbars..
    Can you find out the distance between the bottom bar and the top centre piece. I have a pair of Fyrlts that are 215mm tall,that I want to put on my rangy.So I'd need say 220mm space for them.
    Thanks

    cheers
    If you haven't already got the lights fitted you could search for the posts I put up about the build process for the light mounts I made to put FyrLyts on my L322.

  5. #25
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    Hi Folks,

    I just joined and Im in..........2011 4.4 ltr TDV8 Vogue Luxury. I want a bar!

    Who do I need to get with?
    Rgds
    Grant

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    I need a bar too!

    Just about to receive my MY12 L322 and would love a proper bar in lieu of the factory one.

    Chris

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    Ok, so I have had the meeting with the manufacture, after seeing the car without the bumper etc, they are happy to go ahead with the project! A closer estimated cost is $2000 for a top of the line, bespoke product.
    $500 deposits are needed and we need around 10 to get the ball rolling then we move to 3d vehicle scans, design (where your input for the features will help), prototyping, impact testing and final prototype and then manufacture! Realistically 3 to 6 months away.
    We are hoping to design a single bull bar that will cover the whole l322 range even with the facelift changes, but we will have to have all types together to see what differences there are exactly...if anyone already knows (In detail) that would also help
    Please reply and PM me if you want to go ahead with this and we can organize deposits!

    The dream is close!

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    As far as differences go;
    Behind the bumper & bumper mounting bracket they are the same. The headlights are different with different mounting points but that’s no issue. Bumper profile changes on the 06-09 and different again 10-12, the mount plate behind the bumper is different. The later bumpers will fit directly to the earlier cars if you also change the mounting plate – if you don’t change the plate it can be modified to accept the later bumpers, so the plates must be very close. You can change the plate as a straight bolt on, I assume the plate will be removed. I believe the skirt down to the tow point is slightly different, but behind the cosmetics they are the same.

    Only difference I see is the profile of the top of the main bumper to match up with the head lights and grill.

    For example - If you put an old bumper on a 2012 car there will be a space between the bumper and lights and possibly the grill.

    Is $2000 for steel or alloy? I would think steel will put the TDV8 well over weight on the front.
    L322 3.6TDv8 Lux

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    Quote Originally Posted by harlie View Post
    As far as differences go;
    Behind the bumper & bumper mounting bracket they are the same. The headlights are different with different mounting points but that’s no issue. Bumper profile changes on the 06-09 and different again 10-12, the mount plate behind the bumper is different. The later bumpers will fit directly to the earlier cars if you also change the mounting plate – if you don’t change the plate it can be modified to accept the later bumpers, so the plates must be very close. You can change the plate as a straight bolt on, I assume the plate will be removed. I believe the skirt down to the tow point is slightly different, but behind the cosmetics they are the same.

    Only difference I see is the profile of the top of the main bumper to match up with the head lights and grill.

    For example - If you put an old bumper on a 2012 car there will be a space between the bumper and lights and possibly the grill.

    Is $2000 for steel or alloy? I would think steel will put the TDV8 well over weight on the front.
    This is what I had thought, those small cosmetic differences should be no problem at all.

    With the TDv8 weight limit? How much is allowed for the front axle? the patrol steel bullbar is weighed in at 68kg...aka the difference between some people. I cant imagine this being a problem. Alloy options are available at a small cost i believe

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    wow 68kg is a lot of weight to swing that far from the front wheels. It might be = to one person but people don't sit several feet in front of the axle. I suppose that's why ABR ect recommend changing front springs when fitting steel bars to normal 4x4s.

    Also looking at the profile of the nissan V L322 lower bumper sections, the L322 will have a larger bar section - I'll bet it goes well over 68.

    I believe the reason there's no winch option for the TDV8 is because it is so close to its front axle limit - ie the factory winch kit puts it over.

    Seriously considering an alloy version...
    L322 3.6TDv8 Lux

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