Teach me your luxury ways!

**Judo** · 20th June 2016, 07:06 AM

Looking into diesel L322's. HSE altho I'm not entirely clear on the difference between the SE and HSE? I know I can't afford a Vogue.

Apart from the gearbox what are the other big questions?

The plan is self maintenance. Will it be much different from my D1 and County?

Good idea or great idea? Discuss.

**chaybra** · 20th June 2016, 07:37 AM

Gearbox and suspension bushes are the only worries. best get yourself the IIDtool to, for when some electrical issue arises, it turns big ones into little ones really quick.

Road Stone · 20th June 2016, 03:52 PM

Levels of equipment are the big differences, google for the specs and you'll see.

If I had a County or D1 now, I'd race off into the bush without a care in the world.

As stated, independent diagnostics is a must. Very good advice.

Cheers, Jerry

**rar110** · 20th June 2016, 04:46 PM

The FullfatRR site has some excellent information specifically about the L322, especially in the wiki section. AULRO is good for an Australian context and conditions.

Essentially the L322 went through 5 phases IMHO:
2002-2005 initial version with BMW 3.0 TD with GM 5 speed, and BMW 4.4 v8 petrol with ZF 5 speed.
2005/6: facelift with reputedly improved electronics. Same Td and transmission, now with improved Jag v8s and ZF 6 speed in 4.4na and 4.2sc. The v8s seem to be the pick.
2007-2009: improved electronics again although now more complex with terrain response (which had been in the D3 since 2005). The v8s are the same. New is the tdv8 3.6 with 200kw/640nm. This is what I have now with 255,000km, love it.
2009/10: there is a facelift but same tdv8, and I think the new v8s 5.0 sc and na. All with ZF 6 speed.
2010/11: new 4.4tdv8 with ZF 8 speed, v8s keep the ZF 6 speed.

I hope that helps.

**rar110** · 20th June 2016, 05:05 PM

Another point is Australia L322s didn't get a diesel particulate filter until the either the 2nd facelift or the 4.4s. Also the Jag 4.4 was also available in the 2005/6 D3.

**Judo** · 20th June 2016, 05:25 PM

Thanks for that. For my budget I'm really only looking at the early L322's but will keep my eyes open for other bargains!

I read some threads on the fullfatrr on changing suspension bushes to see what I might be up for and looks relatively straight forward. As I looked around it's clear that site has a ton of info!

Interesting on the DPF.... Will add to list of research items.

**GregMilner** · 20th June 2016, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

Another point is Australia L322s didn't get a diesel particulate filter until the either the 2nd facelift or the 4.4s. Also the Jag 4.4 was also available in the 2005/6 D3.

I've got the 2012 TDV8 4.4 and mine doesn't have the DPF apparently - well, the dealer couldn't find one when they put it up on the hoist a couple of years ago:-)

**rar110** · 20th June 2016, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by GregMilner

I've got the 2012 TDV8 4.4 and mine doesn't have the DPF apparently - well, the dealer couldn't find one when they put it up on the hoist a couple of years ago:-)

Interesting thanks. I hope you're right. I'm always happy to be corrected with facts like that. UK and here is clearly different. They got a DPF on the 3.6.

**Graeme** · 20th June 2016, 06:05 PM

No DPF fitted to my MY12 and Topix shows Euro4 emissions rather than Euro5.

**Homestar** · 20th June 2016, 06:18 PM

Suspension bushes aren't difficult, but my mates 20 tonne press was stretched to its limits at times. Overall I don't find these vehicles hard to work on - maintenance items like servicing, brakes, etc are very straight forward. Most engine stuff is reasonably easy - if you ever need to do anything to them, they are a solid engine. A higher level of skill is required for things like timing chains, head R&R, etc, but still doable in the driveway with a good set of tools and the service manual.

A diagnostic tool like the IID or similar is a must if you don't want to be carting it to the dealers - they can throw some interesting faults - most relating to the suspension - usually related to low battery voltage, but some of these won't clear on their own.

Overall, not a difficult vehicle to own once the transmissions been done, but just remember that they are getting older (and cheaper) but some parts are still very expensive - thankfully not the run of the mill stuff, that's all really cheap and easy to get - there are ****loads of these around the world, parts will be easy to come by for many years yet.

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