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Thread: Rear e-diff retrofit to MY12 4.4 TDV8

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    Rear e-diff retrofit to MY12 4.4 TDV8

    Research reveals that for my vehicle there is only 1 harness specific to the rear e-diff. The various main harnesses don't nominate open or locking diff whereas the EPB harness is with or without locking diff and with or without the FBH. No harness is listed for my vehicle's missing 40A power and earth connections to the control unit, which I had earlier expected to be already fitted.

    The control module has the same part number as fitted to D4s and MY10+ RRS but a control module will require calibration if not the one from the actual donor vehicle as the e-diff. The CCF will need to be changed to reflect the existence of the e-diff then the control unit calibrated to the e-diff if necessary.

    Having found a complete 4.4 TDV8 e-diff and control module that is about to purchased (now secured), it's time to sort out the electrical requirements. Today the main harness connector was uncovered, containing both the can-bus wires and the ignition feed (plus another as-yet unidentified wire, not used by D4s) in an in-line connector.

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    The control unit has the can-bus wires in 1 connector, the ignition feed and the 40A power and earth wires in a 2nd connector and the e-diff control wires in a 3rd connector. Therefore the wires in the in-line connector have to split to 2 connectors yet the 2nd connector should also have the 40A power and earth wires which don't currently exist. As the cost of the combination harness is around 100 GBP yet the version without e-diff support at less than 70 GBP, I now suspect that the combination harness includes the other half of the in-line connector, the 2 control unit power and can-bus connectors, the missing 40A power and earth cables and the harness connecting the control unit to the e-diff, along with the EPB and FBH harness. I will order the replacement EPB/FBH/e-diff harness as soon as the diff is on its way and hopefully my analysis holds true.
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    At one stage I had hoped that the E-diff could be retro fitted to the earlier TD6. Activated by a simple on/ off switch . But then from the way I believe the factory E- diff works this probable not possible. Will be following your instelation with interest

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33chinacars View Post
    At one stage I had hoped that the E-diff could be retro fitted to the earlier TD6. Activated by a simple on/ off switch . But then from the way I believe the factory E- diff works this probable not possible. Will be following your instelation with interest
    If you want an electronic rear diff lock, look at Harrop/Eaton E-Lockers - see if they make one for the earlier L322s?

    Edit- after having a think about it, I am sure someone could come up with an Arduino board to run the OE diff motor - whether it is a worthwhile exercise or not is another question.
    - Justin
    Selling soon - MY10 D4 3.0 TDV6 SE with E-Diff & LLAMS, 265/65R18 Maxxis Razr A/T
    Moved into MY12 L322 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography
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    For earlier models, I expected that with the different diffs fitted over the model run that the rear drive-shafts and cross-member would be different but not so, as the part numbers are unchanged. The tail-shafts are different but might still bolt-up to the flange. Obviously the diff ratio would have to match the front - 4.2SC e-diffs are readily available but their ratio could easily be different so might have to also fit the 4.2SC front diff. Otherwise wires would be needed to operate the brake solenoid, wires for the motor (expected to need to be reversible), power, earth and logic to interpret the hall-effect limit switches with the control module powered with the ignition. No need IMO for temp sensors to be working for simple engaged/disengaged operation.
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    sorry I'm not down your way so you can take a peek at my e-diff...I will have to find a reason for a long drive to visit!
    L405, Vogue SE, 4.4SDV8, 8 speed, Rear e-diff

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    This is what I bought. It will need a good clean to get through customs.
    my e-diff.jpeg

    The way my lane is shaping-up it may not come quickly enough, having to give the throttle a good jab at one spot to avoid slipping off into the gutter.
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    Bit off topic but I was going to give you a shout last week Graeme, I drove my RR from Sydney to Adelaide on Wednesday and back again on Saturday and went thru Wagga ? Man it was so green out there.....all the way across the plain, it was like someone's front lawn! Had I a little more time, I would have dropped in......I did wave as I went thru Wagga and then when I saw some black faced sheep out on the plain. Are they Suffolks?

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    no wonder they weigh so much,,
    I hope you have a mate to help lift that Graeme!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RR44TDV8 View Post
    ...I did wave as I went thru Wagga and then when I saw some black faced sheep out on the plain. Are they Suffolks?
    Solid black face and feet are most likely Suffolk whereas slightly mottled faces could be South Suffolk or a Suffolk cross. The black feet better handle wet conditions on flat country. Its been a very wet winter in this part of the country but is often very green in late winter anyway.

    I was in Wagga Wed morning and nearby twice in the evening but your arms would need to be long to be seen from home 40K to the north, just off the Narrandera/Coolamon/Junee/Gundagai route. Dropping by would have been a good test of your tyres in deep mud but we took the van for a run Thurs-Sat so may not have been home anyway.

    Pedro, I will be using a trolley jack - it reportedly weights 60 kg! But keep it quiet that I intend to ask son Justin with the D4 to help.

    The diff and RDCU are on their way - hopefully they don't get lost en-route from St Peterburg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Pedro, I will be using a trolley jack - it reportedly weights 60 kg! But keep it quiet that I intend to ask son Justin with the D4 to help.
    Good thing I stopped paying attention after you mentioned 60 kg!
    - Justin
    Selling soon - MY10 D4 3.0 TDV6 SE with E-Diff & LLAMS, 265/65R18 Maxxis Razr A/T
    Moved into MY12 L322 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography
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