L405 reliability

**BobD** · 11th June 2020, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by CSBrisie

Now there is a thought - how much did the car weigh?

i was stunned to see 2840kg on the weigh bridge at the dump/tip/refuse Centre last weekend on my 17 V8 and I had about 50kg of stuff and me at 80; fuel and then I guess I’ve added a few options like extra battery, ARB compressor etc. but I thought at most I’d see 2500kg.

Your weight seems about right compared with mine. If you take out the estimated load from yours you get 2710. For mine I get 2518 with a full 89l tank of fuel. The TDV8 is at least 200kg heavier than the TDV6 and that is what we get from our weights. We both have some fairly similar extras and I assume you must at least have a panoramic roof, if not side steps.

You would never get 2500 because your model is 2456 without fuel or driver and almost certainly without the tow bar or any other extras in the car that are not in the most basic possible model in Europe. According to the manual, mine is 2160 for the same conditions, although after 2013 the weight is increased to 2205 for the V6.

As with all vehicle and caravan weights what is in the manual often bears little relationship to the actual weights, so we really need to weigh everything to understand our limitations. Like you, I thought I had heaps up my sleave to allow for the TBW.

By the way, despite the extra weight of the V8, the V6 and V8 have the same rear axle capacity of 1775kg (as does every model of L405) and only 90kg extra on the front axle, so it would be very easy to exceed maximum rear axle loads on the V8. I don't know how you could use the extra 200kg of GVM without exceeding the rear axle load, since everything behind the front axle increases load on the rear axle.

**CSBrisie** · 12th June 2020, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by BobD

Your weight seems about right compared with mine. If you take out the estimated load from yours you get 2710. For mine I get 2518 with a full 89l tank of fuel. The TDV8 is at least 200kg heavier than the TDV6 and that is what we get from our weights. We both have some fairly similar extras and I assume you must at least have a panoramic roof, if not side steps.

You would never get 2500 because your model is 2456 without fuel or driver and almost certainly without the tow bar or any other extras in the car that are not in the most basic possible model in Europe. According to the manual, mine is 2160 for the same conditions, although after 2013 the weight is increased to 2205 for the V6.

As with all vehicle and caravan weights what is in the manual often bears little relationship to the actual weights, so we really need to weigh everything to understand our limitations. Like you, I thought I had heaps up my sleave to allow for the TBW.

By the way, despite the extra weight of the V8, the V6 and V8 have the same rear axle capacity of 1775kg (as does every model of L405) and only 90kg extra on the front axle, so it would be very easy to exceed maximum rear axle loads on the V8. I don't know how you could use the extra 200kg of GVM without exceeding the rear axle load, since everything behind the front axle increases load on the rear axle.

Thanks BobD, much appreciated! Gives me pause for thought before I buy the next Van...likely ZoneRV!

Cheers

**Lukeis** · 13th June 2020, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by CSBrisie

Thanks BobD, much appreciated! Gives me pause for thought before I buy the next Van...likely ZoneRV!

Cheers

Weighed my 2011 D4 today with full fuel, no driver = 2.8tons
I have a bullbar, winch, spotties etc

this gives me 440k payload which needs to include myself, partner, Daughter, fridge full of beer, luggage, roof pod for surfboard and fishing gear etc. plus my tow ball weight

im leaving the house in Darwin on Monday and will be fully loaded so I’ll check it again then

main reason for checking this vs the L405 is I want to make sure my next car isn’t significantly heavier, I like the confidence I have on soft sand at the moment

**CSBrisie** · 14th June 2020, 09:14 AM

Bob's research has been an eye opener for me. I went from L322 SDV8 to L405 thinking I was materially increasing payload. Now I realise I haven't. And I have no winch, bull bar, long range tank....sigh. At the moment it isn't an issue, but I have my heart set on a Zone RV 20.6.....so I now know I'll be overweight once TBW is included. Damn. Might need to rethink Van size (and TBW) I guess, given there are some great 16 footers out there. But, doesnt solve the problem I cant add much more weight to the car.

**2nd Rower** · 15th June 2020, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by AlexRS4

It seemed that 2014 or 15 onwards ones were good. Sweet spot was the 2015-16 prior to AdBlue.

Is this purely based on the adblue addition to the engine from MY 17, I would have thought the interior upgrades to MY17 inc wider screen and Carplay/android were a significant positive over the MY16 and before?

**AlexRS4** · 15th June 2020, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by 2nd Rower

Is this purely based on the adblue addition to the engine from MY 17, I would have thought the interior upgrades to MY17 inc wider screen and Carplay/android were a significant positive over the MY16 and before?

Yep. And it depends what you want. Smaller fuel tank etc with AdBlue or carplay.

**Cambo_oldjaguar** · 16th June 2020, 08:57 AM

There's aftermarket solutions for Apple Carplay & Android Auto in the earlier cars.

This is a 2014MY L405

**Geedublya** · 16th June 2020, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by Cambo@oldjaguar

There's aftermarket solutions for Apple Carplay & Android Auto in the earlier cars.

This is a 2014MY L405

What sort of cost Cameron? I have the dual screen display.

**Cambo_oldjaguar** · 16th June 2020, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Geedublya

What sort of cost Cameron? I have the dual screen display.

I do it for $1600 installed incl GST, that's with a USB socket added to the original panel as well.

**Lukeis** · 18th June 2020, 04:36 PM

those pictures are quite dark so its hard to tell but is that taking out the factory screen and replacing it with something else? or is it still the factory face but a software or hidden hardware change? I don't think I would be keen on changing the factory screen but keen to know more if not.

Back to the original question on this post...

Also from my research to date and lack of many complaints online it almost seems the L405 is the most reliable car of the land rover line up - which doesn't make a lot of sense. For instance if someone asked the same question I asked in the discover forum there would be a lot of things commented to look out for.

I find this odd, I mean Land rover cant surely make one really reliable car and the others not so much - can they?
(of course i checked another well known forum overseas as well given the relative low use of this one for l405's)

I wonder if there is any merit in the theory that I don't read much because the average owner of a L405 is in a position to use the dealership and not a forum to fix any issues? Otherwise perhaps you truly do get what you pay for.

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