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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    I think the D5 will be fantastic but undeniably LR is moving towards highly competent road vehicles that also do very well Offroad (and the flash wading depth does not offset the fact that they are offering 19 inch wheels as standard, lack of low range in some models etc and as such the new Defender cannot come fast enough for the brand.

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    I'm personally a fan of low range but the fact is there's a heck of a lot you can do without low range with modern gear boxes and traction aids. It'll still have great clearance which is the main thing...
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    Mate I tow heavy loads and low range is the go... Unless they build a box with extra low 2 speed reverses then low range reverse would be missed. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Mate I tow heavy loads and low range is the go... Unless they build a box with extra low 2 speed reverses then low range reverse would be missed. Cheers
    yeah that's one thing I'm particularly a fan of low range for - and saving the brakes on long descents. But that is far far far from everybody
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    Remember to keep up guys..

    Low range was only invented because it was the easiest way with the tech at the time.

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    The D5 still has low range if you order it - like the current RRS
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    VW Rok uses a couple of very low auto gears in their 8 speed slush box. Works well off road but not in reverse for obvious reasons. I doubt even with an 8 speed and the fluid flywheel gearing things down it would still have the torque and engine braking that low first on a traditional LR has... However I can see that in forward gears at least an 8 speed with 2 ultra low gears And an engine with bucket loads of torque like the LR 3.0 TT could work very well going forward without a transfer box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    VW Rok uses a couple of very low auto gears in their 8 speed slush box. Works well off road but not in reverse for obvious reasons. I doubt even with an 8 speed and the fluid flywheel gearing things down it would still have the torque and engine braking that low first on a traditional LR has... However I can see that in forward gears at least an 8 speed with 2 ultra low gears And an engine with bucket loads of torque like the LR 3.0 TT could work very well going forward without a transfer box.

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    The VW Rock is now available with a V6 diesel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Remember to keep up guys..

    Low range was only invented because it was the easiest way with the tech at the time.
    Until the tech solutions can do a better rather than just similar job to low range, the only con I can see to the latter is that it's heavier and more expensive. It's still a far simpler, elegant and mechanically sympathetic method than flogging the torque converter and hammering the brakes.
    I love when technology actually makes things better and I'll be happy when I can be convinced low range is truly redundant in the same way I was a die hard manual fan until I drove the D4.
    Even if it's a single range box I can't see how it will ever really do the job unless it has something like 12 gears, 4 of which aren't used in normal driving, like new generation mountain bikes.

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    Then 2010 RRS TDV8 'Roger' w traxide DBS, UHF, Cooper Zeons, Superchips remap
    Then 2010 D4 TDV6 'Jumbo' w traxide DBS
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    Who said TC and Brakes?

    There's 10 and 12 speed transmissions in the wings now with a complete cross over...

    Look at your current Dual range box..

    1L
    2L
    3L = 1H
    4L = 2H
    5L = 3H
    6L = 4H
    ... = 5H
    ... = 6H
    ... = 7H
    ... = 8H

    **Roughly

    So a new generation 10/12 speed can easily cover the spectrum, with less weight, less frictional losses etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Who said TC and Brakes?

    There's 10 and 12 speed transmissions in the wings now with a complete cross over...

    Look at your current Dual range box..

    1L
    2L
    3L = 1H
    4L = 2H
    5L = 3H
    6L = 4H
    ... = 5H
    ... = 6H
    ... = 7H
    ... = 8H

    **Roughly

    So a new generation 10/12 speed can easily cover the spectrum, with less weight, less frictional losses etc...
    Yeah, aren't you making my point? No car on the market has that. Certainly not the D5

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    Then 2010 D4 3.0 HSE 'James'
    Then 2010 RRS TDV8 'Roger' w traxide DBS, UHF, Cooper Zeons, Superchips remap
    Then 2010 D4 TDV6 'Jumbo' w traxide DBS
    First love 2002 D2 TD5 'Disco Stu'

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