Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Agreed Pat. I've never needed any of that aftermarket stuff on my Defender other than a bull bar (which has saved me on many occasions from roo strike). ...although I reckon the bush tucker man's set up was pretty basic too! ...but if even the base model D5 doesn't have low range, aren't the wanabee's now the core of Land Rover's market?

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Well that's why all the hipsters own Defenders [emoji23]

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Originally Posted by Grentarc

The D5 with 2 speed transfer and EAS is way more capable than a D4, so no, they are just offering cheaper spec levels for those that won't use the extra features.

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Yeah but the models with dual range also have carpets and leather seats, etc. ..So if you want a D5 for bush travel you have to pay an extra $20K for extra features you won't use or don't want / need...

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Yeah but the models with dual range also have carpets and leather seats, etc. ..So if you want a D5 for bush travel you have to pay an extra $20K for extra features you won't use or don't want / need...

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I would rather leather seats and carpet with removable rubber mats - much easier to clean than cloth seats! My D4 gets a hammering internally from my 3yr old, yet it takes only minutes to clean it all off the leather and hose down the mats.
What other features don't you want or need ? You can buy a pretty basic model and only spec the things you want.

I'd simply rather a base model with dual range and spend the $20K on my mortgage or actually going on many trips.

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Originally Posted by Zeros

I'd simply rather a base model with dual range and spend the $20K on my mortgage or actually going on many trips.

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To option a SD4 Discovery S with EAS, 2 speed transfer case and E-diff costs about $4000 - where's the $20k coming from?
The S TD4 is $65k starting, the SD4 is $70k - so only $9k total over the most basic.

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Originally Posted by Grentarc

To option a SD4 Discovery S with EAS, 2 speed transfer case and E-diff costs about $4500 - where's the $20k coming from?

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Also, the SD4 S has almost 1000kg payload, so there's your optimal tourer. 177kw 500nm too

I know the D3 came out in the basic S model , but did the D4 ? I haven't seen a D4 with cloth trim and coils . I think L/R may have started the trend towards the leather and carpet well before the D5 .
I haven't checked if the D4 did come as a base model so happy to be corrected.

i would be keen to see of all the 4wd sold in all brands , how many actually go remote because my guess is it would be a single figure % . I see most 4wds as being the grey nomad tow tug so can fully understand the trend towards the more luxurious side.

i could just imagine what would be said if L/R went back to building the D1 type disco and the 300tdi style defender as that's how a lot of the opinions in this thread seem that people want them to do.
Just how it reads to me .

cheers Ean

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Originally Posted by Ean Austral

I know the D3 came out in the basic S model , but did the D4 ? I haven't seen a D4 with cloth trim and coils . I think L/R may have started the trend towards the leather and carpet well before the D5 .
I haven't checked if the D4 did come as a base model so happy to be corrected.

i would be keen to see of all the 4wd sold in all brands , how many actually go remote because my guess is it would be a single figure % . I see most 4wds as being the grey nomad tow tug so can fully understand the trend towards the more luxurious side.

i could just imagine what would be said if L/R went back to building the D1 type disco and the 300tdi style defender as that's how a lot of the opinions in this thread seem that people want them to do.
Just how it reads to me .

cheers Ean

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We never saw coils here in the D4, may have been coiled "commercials" in the UK, but not here.

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Originally Posted by Vern

Mmmmm not sure if i can say.
But don't hold me to it please, just what i was told

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Of course you can't say.

Land Rover have not released ANY information on the new defender.

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

Of course you can't say.

Land Rover have not released ANY information on the new defender.

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Not to the public they haven't.