Thread: Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

Originally Posted by DI5CO

I put getting stuck like that due to the wrong setting. I think he should have put it into grass gravel snow. How do I know? Well, I (D4) was stuck in mud, not going anywhere. 2 hours after only moving a few metres and frustration while also using maxtrax and trying to dig myself out, I had a revelation and changed terrain response settings from mud ruts to grass gravel. Guess what, the thing drove out like it was a speed bump, I couldn’t believe it! Lesson learnt, I now have Gordon’s D4 book.

And LR reckon normal owners couldnt handle front/centre/rear driver actuated diff locks a la GWagon etc? LR should toss the electric rubbish and make it properly capable.

Originally Posted by Vern

So all landrovers since the mid 70's are rubbish?

Non biased constant 4wd isnt rubbish, i didnt say that, its just not as good as rear biased constant 4wd, at least not in the driving.

Originally Posted by rammypluge

And LR reckon normal owners couldnt handle front/centre/rear driver actuated diff locks a la GWagon etc? LR should toss the electric rubbish and make it properly capable.

I had all 4 wheels spinning. So I think even with all diffs locked i would still be there!
The different modes of the traction system is amazing and it really works.

Originally Posted by 1nando

Almost as much cock waving as claiming a 100k d5 (so called capable version) is a serious offroader! What a load of BS.

Well having owned a $100,000 L322 plus two Defenders I can tell you a stock as a rock L322 will have your Defenders ticket every way from Sunday.You are in serious need of a reality check. Pat

Originally Posted by 1nando

So many buttons in this thing..which one is for mud?

Hold on is that snow i selected?

Sh#t, its not going up, why am i still so low???

Same situation in my defender:
Lock centre diff
Lock rear diff
Lock front if needed

Hold on and see you on the other side. Sounds simple cause it is

Your not really showing your intelligence in a good light here mate. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

Your not really showing your intelligence in a good light here mate. Pat

Just stating how simple it is to overcome mud or any other difficult terrain in my defender mate. With elcokers front and rear and a Ashcroft centre atb the thing is pretty much unstoppable.
One lever and 2 buttons...

It's getting silly yes. I could make a few comments about reality checks from going off Road in and with D3 and D4 platforms but people on here will put forward dozens of reasons why my recall is wrong or the experienced LR driver's in them couldn't drive so I won't. As for comments about Defender safety tbere is no doubt Defender is not good in a rollover. A d2 is better in a rollover or side impact but in a frontal the defender is strong so don't be worried. The D3 D4 is the safest of all in collisions and very strong. I assume D5 will be better again as it's lighter and greater use of high tensile steel. Anyone drilled a Deefer A pillar to fit a snorkel then used the same type of drill bit for a D3? It's not pretty. The d3 uses high tensile steel in the pillar...very hard to drill. The defender uses cheese.

Cheers

Originally Posted by rammypluge

And LR reckon normal owners couldnt handle front/centre/rear driver actuated diff locks a la GWagon etc? LR should toss the electric rubbish and make it properly capable.

Dreaming aren't we...........

And getting way way off topic.

It is the electronics that makes them super capable.

I have had both

Enough said,time to move on