Thread: Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

Originally Posted by 1nando

Sneak peak perhaps? Just stumbled across this pic

That looks like the old concept vehicle.

Originally Posted by Tombie

I’m just bemused by the “Toyota support network” comments...

Youve clearly never broken down in a remote area and been refused service by a ‘Toyota’ mechanic.

Originally Posted by trout1105

The Defender is a Bloody good 4WD in its current form, It would be lunacy to change its basic configuration just for "fashions" sake.
Maybe a bigger engine with more "Grunt" (diesel V8 would be nice) and maybe an option for an auto box But as far as the rest of the truck is concerned why fix something that isn't broke.

But the Defender has been bordering on illegal for many years, poor or no ANCAP rating, no airbags and the interior ergonomics of an abattoir. Had they stepped up the development at the time of the TD5 release it would be a different vehicle and might actually been able to compete with the Asian offerings.

Originally Posted by weeds

Agree.....

Although my company hi-lux hasn’t missed a beat in 3 years 150k......FRYLYT’s failed on me last night, can I blame that on Toyota.

What happened?

Originally Posted by Zeros

Youve clearly never broken down in a remote area and been refused service by a ‘Toyota’ mechanic.

You’re correct... I’ve never broken down in a remote area.

I did have a failure to proceed - 6’ of Red at 110km/h will do that... and the ‘Toyota’ mechanic was more than helpful. In fact his words “rarely get a chance to work on these. I did fix a head gasket a month or so ago.”

So what’s that say? I haven’t had a breakdown.
Good maintenance strategy. Mechanically sympathetic but never baby my vehicles. And I always use the best quality parts.

Damn these reliable vehicles...

Originally Posted by ozscott

Scary there would be some tracks where that certainly helps but in my experience it doesn't help most of the time. There are some local.tracks where this is the case but where it was really obvious was the steep ramp.overs out of creeks in the far north where the IS Rovers in their highest mode just kept getting stuck for travel. Winches were broken out. The 100 inch D2s with a 2 inch lift and 31s just walked up and over. In stock from in most places the D3/4 is more capable than a stock.d2 but I did make it clear that I was talking modified. Overall though what makes a D3/4 a clear winner over Pajero is air suspension. I just can't see how.Defender can be the best of the LR stable with IS and no air, but we will have to.see. Cheers

When you’re finished comparing apples with oranges...

Only comparison can be done between the D2 and RRS... same wheelbase..

Originally Posted by Tombie

You’re correct... I’ve never broken down in a remote area.

I did have a failure to proceed - 6’ of Red at 110km/h will do that... and the ‘Toyota’ mechanic was more than helpful. In fact his words “rarely get a chance to work on these. I did fix a head gasket a month or so ago.”

So what’s that say? I haven’t had a breakdown.
Good maintenance strategy. Mechanically sympathetic but never baby my vehicles. And I always use the best quality parts.

Damn these reliable vehicles...

Yep good strategy all round and glad to hear you found a good mechanic in your time of need.👍 ...but I reckon you would have a different view if you broke down in different circumstances.

Originally Posted by Zeros

Yep good strategy all round and glad to hear you found a good mechanic in your time of need. ...but I reckon you would have a different view if you broke down in different circumstances.

Nope. I’d just fix it..

Like I do for my mates on trips.. when they have problems. For the record on a trip along the Transcontinental - the only vehicle to not have mechanical, electrical or tyre problems was the D4...