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    In a past life I was involved with fleet purchase and sales. Typically car makers would not discount cars to us that were selling in large numbers or new models. Reasons included profits and not wanting to depreciate resale values when fleet cars were sold often in big numbers.

    Typically if we wanted cheap we bought cars that were not selling well. ..often being stockpiled or end of production run outs and fleet special with no add ons...even mags were swapped out for skinny steelies. Reliability nor resale values were of any great consideration in selection albeit there was once a political push for hybrids...didn't last long tho!

    If say a toyota prado or lc was needed for special purpose use we paid nearly full retail price.

    My first thoughts are LR is desperate to sell/turn over units so have gone to fleet sales. Second thought is that they may even be losing money on them just to keep the machinery rolling 😐

    And yes fleet prices are eye wateringly less than retail in many cases esp if taxes are exempted and large numbers are bought😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Looks like they need some fleet deals urgently.

    Nearly all months in 2018 less than 2017.

    carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-data/land-rover/land-rover-discovery/

    I think I would conclude that D5 maybe a flop.

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    2005 D3 sales are much higher than subsequent years and the D4 sold in the 11-12k region. D5 in launch year higher (similar to D3 but indeed lower) then 2018 over 13k units. This is despite the diesel backlash in various European countries.

    I would not conclude the D5 is a sales flop at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndusD4 View Post
    2005 D3 sales are much higher than subsequent years and the D4 sold in the 11-12k region. D5 in launch year higher (similar to D3 but indeed lower) then 2018 over 13k units. This is despite the diesel backlash in various European countries.

    I would not conclude the D5 is a sales flop at all.

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    Thats European sales only,any figures for total sales compared with D3/4?

    More D4's were sold in Aus in its last year than ever before.

    LR have said they want new Defender to sell at least 100 000 a year,D5 sits at around 45 000,the lowest of the LR range.

    Aus sales of all Land Rovers have fallen significantly in the last 6 months or so,where overall vehicle sales have also dipped slightly.

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    LR have said they want new Defender to sell at least 100 000 a year,D5 sits at around 45 000,the lowest of the LR range.
    Yes it's ironic that Land Rover is now an SUV company selling mostly Disco Sport and Evoque.
    I wonder what percentage of those are 2WD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    ...I wonder what percentage of those are 2WD?....
    0% in Australia - they don't sell them here. In the UK there is only one variant made which is the base model diesel for both the Evoque and DS. I don't think many will sell in FWD form.
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    I don't think many will sell in FWD form.
    Really? All the Japanese have now released 2WD versions of their SUVs as price leaders , and even a RAV4 is available as a 2WD. RAV2?
    They are popular AFAIK for people who like the elevation/safety of an SUV but stick to the city. I cannot see how it would be much different in the big cities of UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    Yes it's ironic that Land Rover is now an SUV company selling mostly Disco Sport and Evoque.
    I wonder what percentage of those are 2WD?

    Regards Philip A
    I wonder how many of world wide sales of D5,RRS,RR,don't have a transfer case?

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    I was politely told on friday that they don't make a D5.

    It is a Discovery.

    The compact model is a Discovery Sport .

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    I wonder how many of world wide sales of D5,RRS,RR,don't have a transfer case?
    Very few i would imagine, dealers are not good at letting you know there is a cheaper option D5 Getting more fleet deals

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    I was politely told on friday that they don't make a D5.

    It is a Discovery.

    The compact model is a Discovery Sport .
    Technically yes but to a Land Rover enthusiast that sought of comment from a dealer amounts to pedantry.

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