Thread: D5 Disaster

im in same boat. Day 1@ 50km only, hose came off a small heat exchanger. Coolant loss. Front Windscreen ..well known issue..the seal doesnt bond. Yet still no recall by JLR A. Mine suddenly leaked few weeks ago. Rear locking differential would bind when taking off with very crunching noise.thats been totally replaced. Rear door seals malaligned. Replaced. Constant issues with info system failing to memorise log in. Upgrades several been done..less problematic now. Battery replaced after few K' . Always flat next morning. Replaced and no issues since for 12 months.
Im looking at 2021 & new LC300. Get rid of this unreliable worst I've had. D4 had several reliability issues but nothing like this pile of problems. Nice car to drive & fab in the bush but LR is crap reliable. Im going back to LC.. had several for decades. Thought the LR would have been better..wrong I am!

Originally Posted by DirtDigger

im in same boat. Day 1@ 50km only, hose came off a small heat exchanger. Coolant loss. Front Windscreen ..well known issue..the seal doesnt bond. Yet still no recall by JLR A. Mine suddenly leaked few weeks ago. Rear locking differential would bind when taking off with very crunching noise.thats been totally replaced. Rear door seals malaligned. Replaced. Constant issues with info system failing to memorise log in. Upgrades several been done..less problematic now. Battery replaced after few K' . Always flat next morning. Replaced and no issues since for 12 months.
Im looking at 2021 & new LC300. Get rid of this unreliable worst I've had. D4 had several reliability issues but nothing like this pile of problems. Nice car to drive & fab in the bush but LR is crap reliable. Im going back to LC.. had several for decades. Thought the LR would have been better..wrong I am!

And this is why resale is bad, no one wants to pay a lot as all these problems would costs a fortune to replace once warranty runs out.
Which year/version?

Originally Posted by DirtDigger

im in same boat. Day 1@ 50km only, hose came off a small heat exchanger. Coolant loss. Front Windscreen ..well known issue..the seal doesnt bond. Yet still no recall by JLR A. Mine suddenly leaked few weeks ago. Rear locking differential would bind when taking off with very crunching noise.thats been totally replaced. Rear door seals malaligned. Replaced. Constant issues with info system failing to memorise log in. Upgrades several been done..less problematic now. Battery replaced after few K' . Always flat next morning. Replaced and no issues since for 12 months.
Im looking at 2021 & new LC300. Get rid of this unreliable worst I've had. D4 had several reliability issues but nothing like this pile of problems. Nice car to drive & fab in the bush but LR is crap reliable. Im going back to LC.. had several for decades. Thought the LR would have been better..wrong I am!

Not trying to defend LR but remember the LC200 had many issues when new and still does eg air filtration system...DPF. ..rubbish auto..diff failure..gvm crap etc

Hopefully the new cruiser won't but there's no 100% fault free guarrantee with any new car..hence ever expanding warranties.

Have to say that Toyota/dealers seem more approachable to fix their faults tho...eg daughters RAV rear suspension arm failure...3 recalls in USA plus deaths....but no recall here 🤤 A bit of arm twisting was needed but they did replace the dud parts...eventually.

Originally Posted by DirtDigger

im in same boat. Day 1@ 50km only, hose came off a small heat exchanger. Coolant loss. Front Windscreen ..well known issue..the seal doesnt bond. Yet still no recall by JLR A. Mine suddenly leaked few weeks ago. Rear locking differential would bind when taking off with very crunching noise.thats been totally replaced. Rear door seals malaligned. Replaced. Constant issues with info system failing to memorise log in. Upgrades several been done..less problematic now. Battery replaced after few K' . Always flat next morning. Replaced and no issues since for 12 months.
Im looking at 2021 & new LC300. Get rid of this unreliable worst I've had. D4 had several reliability issues but nothing like this pile of problems. Nice car to drive & fab in the bush but LR is crap reliable. Im going back to LC.. had several for decades. Thought the LR would have been better..wrong I am!

Heaps of these sorts of posts on other forums,as well,another reason we didn’t want one.

For the numbers of late model LC200 around,there are very,very few issues,but then again,it’s been around for a while,and is not as complicated as a D5.

Let’s hope the New Defender is a lot better,although there are a few posts on the UK Defender sites with a few issues.

I suppose it’s a fairly simple equation.. The less you innovate and the less you pack in to a car = the less things break.

The technology for the LC200 or 79 series is basic and it’s more or less the same car for years not which is the saving grace for them.

Although if LR can’t stick a simple windscreen in without water leaks then you shouldn’t be making cars.

I have another month before I get back to Sydney and start looking for a new car.. what to do, what to do!

Originally Posted by Lukeis

I suppose it’s a fairly simple equation.. The less you innovate and the less you pack in to a car = the less things break.

The technology for the LC200 or 79 series is basic and it’s more or less the same car for years not which is the saving grace for them.

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Not taking sides,but I have this ‘discussion’ with one of my brothers all the time,and he is an LR nut.

Do LR actually innovate these days?Sure years ago they were first with coils and airbags,in 4X4,s,etc.

With Ford,they developed the brilliant Terrain response system with EAS,but that was quite a few years ago.

These days,I don’t think they do much innovating?

They probably do a small amount,as do all manufacturers.

Is the best way to go forward,make highly complicated vehicles,and risk unreliability,that leads to a bad reputation?

Or make basic type vehicles,copy the others,improve the design,make them ultra reliable,and sell them in huge numbers,with a pretty good reputation.

If I was in the vehicle manufacturing business,I know what I would be doing.

Originally Posted by Lukeis

I suppose it’s a fairly simple equation.. The less you innovate and the less you pack in to a car = the less things break.

The technology for the LC200 or 79 series is basic and it’s more or less the same car for years not which is the saving grace for them.

Although if LR can’t stick a simple windscreen in without water leaks then you shouldn’t be making cars.

I have another month before I get back to Sydney and start looking for a new car.. what to do, what to do!

What to do?

Ditch it & buy a treadly, they don't have windscreens.

Originally Posted by scarry

Not taking sides,but I have this ‘discussion’ with one of my brothers all the time,and he is an LR nut.

Do LR actually innovate these days?Sure years ago they were first with coils and airbags,in 4X4,s,etc.

With Ford,they developed the brilliant Terrain response system with EAS,but that was quite a few years ago.

These days,I don’t think they do much innovating?

They probably do a small amount,as do all manufacturers.

Is the best way to go forward,make highly complicated vehicles,and risk unreliability,that leads to a bad reputation?

Or make basic type vehicles,copy the others,improve the design,make them ultra reliable,and sell them in huge numbers,with a pretty good reputation.

If I was in the vehicle manufacturing business,I know what I would be doing.

Not Ashtrays these days Paul, but who makes the best cup holder?