Thread: Won’t be retro...

Geez, sensitive lot aren’t we. 😊

Given that some roadhouses use diesel generators to make their power I can tell you straight up they won’t be giving away free power with it costs them to make it. Solar and batteries? Any idea how many of those you’d need just to charge half a dozen cars a day...

It was a point I was making in the infrastructure. Some here say we’re going full EV in 5 years so more than 0.5% will be making that trip. I love solar, renewables and EV’s - just making a point that it won’t be a 5 year fix to sort these things out, maybe 25...

And 600km between charges? Maybe on a test track with no load or excess passengers in a controlled environment. Loaded up with the family and all the crap they’ll take, my number is closer I reason. 😉

Originally Posted by TB

This isn't really the right place to debate in detail, but please look again at what I wrote. I was talking about a class of larger vehicles that get used fairly heavily, ie the "work vehicles" which are frequently the topic in this thread. Bigger batteries and much higher utilisation than your case. Solar at home is of little use for vehicles which are out working most days. And the pre-subsidy costs of even your 5kW array are exactly what I'm talking about... massive investment at a national scale to get enough clean energy to charge them all.

Exactly,as i have said previously.

For many,many people,EV's are not practical,and probably never will be,unless technology advances are massive.

It may be suitable for a few,but thats it.

As said,there is no way there is enough power around to charge them,recent issues during hot weather have proved this.

And not everyone is going to race out and get a solar system,and a huge battery pack to charge a high mileage EV sometime during the night maybe.Its just not practical.

An EV,will use more power than a 9KW wall split system AC,for around 6 to 7 hours,to charge.Quick chargers use a lot more,but equivalent amount of power for a shorter period.Its still a huge amount of power.

On another note,on many tests of Ev's,the range of the vehicle in real driving conditions is way less than advertised.

Oh,and there is a brand new garage that has just been built near our place,no sign of any charging stations.

Don't get me wrong,EV's would be great,but in reality,they are not practical for many.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

With the greatest respect, I've been reading that kind of comment for decades - it was a staple of the letters to the editor in Wheels. But the problem is that when they sell a vinyl-seated-no-air-con stripped out a car, the only people who bought them were nuns. And then me, when the nuns were done with them.

With the exception of Toyota with Landcruisers, who seemed to get away with it.

And why LandCruiser 70 series alone obliterate LandRover sales !

Wheelbases will be about 90 and 110, possibly also something longer like a 130. My guesses.

FWIW Current BT50/Ranger wheelbase is almost identical to a 130
(At least within a mm or two)

Originally Posted by rick130

FWIW Current BT50/Ranger wheelbase is almost identical to a 130
(At least within a mm or two)

Useless fact of the day,
Interestingly the Iveco Daily wheelbase is 3400mm = 134" but its turning circle is 13.4m which is a bit more than a 110 @12.8m and heaps less than a 130 @ 15.08m

A Ford Ranger beats them all at 12.7m .

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Took a while to find these, but they are being spotted

Had some fun with the regos and uk rego search, doesnt give much away.

Originally Posted by garrycol

You EV people also have your head in the sand. There are not enough resources in the world to supply battery related resources if every vehicle in the world was to be EV - will ultimately be a flash in the pan.

With clean energy becoming more efficient and cost effective we will soon be back driving internal combustion engines powered by hydrogen. Once we have the cheap, non polluting power to make the stuff, EV will be history.

Agree with hydrogen being better long term than EV

"Hyundai spokesman Scott Nargar said the main advantage of hydrogen over electric cars was they could be filled up in three minutes like a normal car and had a range of up to 800 kilometres.

"So they are just like driving a normal car but there will be zero emissions," he said."

Hydrogen fuel breakthrough in Queensland could fire up massive new export market - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Originally Posted by TB

This isn't really the right place to debate in detail, but please look again at what I wrote. I was talking about a class of larger vehicles that get used fairly heavily, ie the "work vehicles" which are frequently the topic in this thread. Bigger batteries and much higher utilisation than your case. Solar at home is of little use for vehicles which are out working most days. And the pre-subsidy costs of even your 5kW array are exactly what I'm talking about... massive investment at a national scale to get enough clean energy to charge them all.



Delighted to agree with you on that

FWIW I have 7kW PV at my place and buy 100% GreenPower for everything we import from the grid. I also have reserved an early spot in the Tesla Model 3 queue. It's not the current scale of the EV fleet in Australia that represents a grid-scale challenge, it's the idea of decarbonising the whole sector.

And hydrogen is a terrible option for chemical fuel. Super difficult to handle, and dangerous. There are some options like di-methyl ether or even ammonia which could be produced using nuclear process heat which would be better overall choices especially for extra-urban use.

Again

Hydrogen fuel breakthrough in Queensland could fire up massive new export market - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)