Thread: Won’t be retro...

Originally Posted by Gregz

I've been looking at that Rivian, but realised that with the full size 180KWh battery to get the longest range, to have that on-tap in a house battery, it will take an equivalent to 13 or so Tesla Powerwall-2 batteries for a full charge, which at $12k a pop = $156K !
You may not want a full charge every time, but that would be worst case.
Also, if you were using an average 5KW solar array, it would take 36 hours of charging, which assuming you could get 9 hours of charging a day, would be 4 days to charge it. All this while the array is not used for any other household power.
However, you could potentially charge it using off-peak power, if that is permitted, at a rate of roughly 10c per KWh (is that about the off-peak rate?) . Standard GPO in your house is good for about 2.5KW (10A) , so you would need the equivalent of 180/2.5 = 72 x 10A circuits over however long the off-peak runs for.... Not sure how long off-peak runs for overnight, but assuming you get a 8 hour window of off peak power, then you would need a 90A circuit to completely charge up the 180KWh battery overnight on off-peak. But it would cost less than $20 to charge.
Could somebody please check my man-maths ?

Awesome info, I guess to be more environmentally sound, you would buy green power, so that would be good to add to the math mix.

So for people to charge cars off grid at night, it's a massive investment. And you have to own your own home.

Originally Posted by weeds

I reckon I would see 200 other dual for every 130......nearly as rare as hens teeth.

Yes you can either follow the sheep or make your own choices.

Rare comparatively yes ...which is partly why Defender prices are going up, not down. Also because they were always under priced / under valued IMO

Gregz isn't far off the mark.

Looking at JAG I Pace charging specs,it uses 7KW of power for 13.5 hours for 380KM.

So in real life driving,depending on style,etc,maybe high 200kms from a charge?

That is a huge amount of power.

Then there is the 'Quick Charge',thats 100KW for 45 minutes.

That 'Quick Charging' certainly won't be done from any domestic power supply without a massive power upgrade.

We keep getting dragged back into EVs by a few people that have a keen interest in the subject. Erhem cough cough *goingbush* cough cough

It is interesting but I don't think the defender is ready for it. Considering the defender is synonymous with remote adventure, a full BEV defender EV at this stage would be a joke.

Let's discuss what we would require from a BEV land rover in this thread -》
Electric Land Rovers - The future

Originally Posted by weeds

Have JLR ever been in the heavy duty work vehicle I.e. even competed with other manufacturers??.......over the last 20years in AUS I haven’t seen fleets of defenders doing the hard work.

A 130 is an extremly heavy duty a work vehicle and also extremely capable off-road vehicle. Fleets of the defender have been used the world over in many industries including the army. They were not perfect however judged the best option at the time. Perenties are to this day one of the most hardcore vehicles money can buy dont you think.

Originally Posted by weeds

I reckon I would see 200 other dual for every 130......nearly as rare as hens teeth.

Discerning buyers not sheeple as zero said, bet you froth when you see that 1 in 200, 130!

How's this NSW reg 110 dual cab, got to be the toughest looking and most capable dual cab ever made imo, if you had one these in every car yard in australia they would sell like hot cakes.

Originally Posted by manic

We keep getting dragged back into EVs by a few people that have a keen interest in the subject. Erhem cough cough *goingbush* cough cough

It is interesting but I don't think the defender is ready for it. Considering the defender is synonymous with remote adventure, a full BEV defender EV at this stage would be a joke.

Let's discuss what we would require from a BEV land rover in this thread -》
Electric Land Rovers - The future

Better get ready because all landrovers are electrified from 2020