Thread: Won’t be retro...

Originally Posted by Zeros

Coil version?

The D3 had a factory coil version (RSA also got a D4 with coils for limited time).

Normally was the Discovery 3 S version. I suspect JLR did this as an option because the P38a EAS had a reputation that carried through to the early L322 to some extent.

Originally Posted by rar110

Hopefully the coil version has better off road capability than the D3 coil version. It wasn’t that great going off several posts on here by owners wanting lifts etc.

I recon if there was the coil and EAS suspension option,i would go with the EAS.
It has so many advantages over coils,particularly in a vehicle with independent front and rear suspension.

Sure there could be reliability issues,but there are not many issues with D4 EAS systems,and by now the newer vehicles systems are/should be very reliable.

And if a fault does occur,using the GAP tool,the air compresser can be forced on,fuses pulled,etc to keep the system inflated,in the event of a failure in a remote area.

Originally Posted by scarry

I recon if there was the coil and EAS suspension option,i would go with the EAS.
It has so many advantages over coils,particularly in a vehicle with independent front and rear suspension.

Sure there could be reliability issues,but there are not many issues with D4 EAS systems,and by now the newer vehicles systems are/should be very reliable.

And if a fault does occur,using the GAP tool,the air compresser can be forced on,fuses pulled,etc to keep the system inflated,in the event of a failure in a remote area.

100% agree. My 2008 L322 EAS has been trouble free. I wouldn’t buy a new Defender without EAS. Not that it’s likely I would buy one anyway.

Originally Posted by rar110

100% agree. My 2008 L322 EAS has been trouble free. I wouldn’t buy a new Defender without EAS. Not that it’s likely I would buy one anyway.

You only need EAS if constant clearance isn't good enough ...My 1998 coil springs have always been trouble free.

Originally Posted by Zeros

You only need EAS if constant clearance isn't good enough ...My 1998 coil springs have always been trouble free.

I’ve been on a few trips where coil sprung live axle cars (Landrovers) have been hung up their diffs and D3/D4s have not even come close to being caught.

EAS gives you lots of options that coilers don’t have.

Originally Posted by Geedublya

I’ve been on a few trips where coil sprung live axle cars (Landrovers) have been hung up their diffs and D3/D4s have not even come close to being caught.

EAS gives you lots of options that coilers don’t have.

Exactly,those that have never owned one,wouldn't understand............

They have so many advantages over coils,its a no brainer.

I have driven both extensively,and one leaves the other way behind.

Originally Posted by Zeros

You only need EAS if constant clearance isn't good enough ...My 1998 coil springs have always been trouble free.

A 2” lift at the push of a button is pretty handy, and driving around town at normal height when extra height is not required. So you get a lift when you need it without cranking suspension arms etc to keep the steering from going out of spec.

So is a 2” drop when going into shopping centre or other covered car park.

Anti body roll (compressor pushes air into one side) to keep the body more level when going around bends is also pretty good.

I got hung up going over a rock on Fraser Island earlier this year. I already did the lift. But as the car detected I was hung up it automatically gave me an extra lift. So could drive away.

The ride is dangerously good. You tend to drive too quick over corrugations, as the EAS just soaks it up.

You don’t get this with coils. I’m not knocking coils. I still have a few too many 110s. But EAS is just better. Air springs are made a bit like tyres except more reliable because they don’t have contact with the road. I note a lot of Defender owners putting after market air springs in the rear so they can manually increase air pressure to keep the body level when carrying a load. Another automatic feature with JLR EAS. No manual adjustment required for different loads.

All of the above is why EAS should be the standard and coils the option in the new Defender.

Well said,That extended off road height is fantastic,allows the long handled shovel just enough room to get in.
and to add,towing heavy loads,just hook it up,and away you go,easy as.
Self levels every time,and handles so well.

In fact a mate of mine has towed a few different huge 3T vans for the last 40 yrs with all sorts of vehicles.

The latest vehicle he has had for the last 4 yrs is an Audi,Q7 i think it is,TDV8, with EAS.He swears never to go back to coils after having the EAS,nothing compares.