Thread: Won’t be retro...

Originally Posted by roverrescue

Just going to leave this here
Obviously couldn’t match the angles but I tried to size off wheel diameter

Now don’t get me wrong I always laugh at 200s etc dragging their rear quarters through mud steps and shake my head at the weight of rear barwork to protect the overhang

BUT how much loadspace will 2020 have
Any chance of rear seats?
We know LR are clever and innovative with seating layout so maybe possible or perhaps they are just banking on 6 seats being enough?

Perhaps the biggest issue will be fuel capacity - another LR with poor range with OEM tankage?

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I think because the rear is high and square should be ok, much better than my RRC, but not as much as current defender.

If you look at rear door its huge, im guessing seats are a little more foreward than usual.

6 seats is too much for us, but I'm not complaining in 2 rows, especially if i get best in class departure.

Originally Posted by goingbush

So you don't know about the Londolozi story then, They 'invented;' the Electric Defender for their Game Tour platform and invited LandRover to look at it who further developed it into the line up below .

Now they have been left high & dry & Most African game reserves are now converting Toyota troop carriers to full Electric. .

Nah didnt know about it, thanks for sharing .
If this defender does well @ tusk it will put a good EV factory option for all reserves.
There was some comments online of people seing the moab hybrid, saying it was so silent on the trails, there are certainly many times 4wding with windows down enjoying nature that i wished the engine was off.

Originally Posted by goingbush

Good one, you can bet your bottom dollar there wont be anywhere to mount Aux fuel & water tanks. And it is refreshing to see it being referred to as a 2020 instead of a Defender .

Im sure we or the aftermarket will figure something out mate, with a positive attitude you can achieve anything as you know.

New Nurburgring vid, imo looks like is has about a tonne of payload onboard? wallowing around a fair bit.

YouTube

Land Rover Defender 110 Spied Lumbering Around The Nurburgring

2020 Land Rover Defender Doesn't Look Like It Belongs To The 'Ring | Carscoops

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Imo they will be taking chunks out of many different brands.

Their biggest seller in oz at the moment is the Disco sport

Well if nothing else this thread is great for its comedic value. LR sold just over 1370 vehicles in total during March here in ****sville, of that I couldn't find figures on their 'best selling' vehicle but considering Toyota sold over 17,000 of which over 4,600 were Hiluxes and Ford sold 6,100 vehicles of which 3,700 were Rangers really shows that LR are not a player here - and while I'm sure in other markets their market share is better (maybe) I'm not sure where this 'chunk' is going to come from that you speak of. Keep on dreaming, one day one may come true, but not this one.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Well if nothing else this thread is great for its comedic value. LR sold just over 1370 vehicles in total during March here in ****sville, of that I couldn't find figures on their 'best selling' vehicle but considering Toyota sold over 17,000 of which over 4,600 were Hiluxes and Ford sold 6,100 vehicles of which 3,700 were Rangers really shows that LR are not a player here - and while I'm sure in other markets their market share is better (maybe) I'm not sure where this 'chunk' is going to come from that you speak of. Keep on dreaming, one day one may come true, but not this one.

I'm sure saying this thread is here just for comedic value would be quite offensive to many of the people that have put huge amount of hours into sharing information learnt..hmm.

What is ****sville ? Australia?

Did you notice the increase in sales in AU, UK and US last month over last year?

From what I am seeing there is nothing that will hold the new defender back from taking huge chunks out of other players markets.

No dreaming needed.

I’m sorry blackrangie, but I have to agree with Homestar on this one. (I may not have used his exact choice of words though)

Everything that I have read so far indicate that the new Defender will sell for a bare minimum of $60k

In my eyes that is a lot of coin, and puts it right in the middle of Hilux, Ranger, Navara, Dmax territory (I am only taking about utes).

LR are going to have to pull off a
miracle if it wants to steal market share in that segment.

Don’t get me wrong - I am eagerly awaiting the new Defender but (as I have said before) I highly doubt that I will be able to afford one - based on everything that has been said before (espresso UK prices).

I really hope that I am wrong.

Originally Posted by grey_ghost

I’m sorry blackrangie, but I have to agree with Homestar on this one. (I may not have used his exact choice of words though)

Everything that I have read so far indicate that the new Defender will sell for a bare minimum of $60k

In my eyes that is a lot of coin, and puts it right in the middle of Hilux, Ranger, Navara, Dmax territory (I am only taking about utes).

LR are going to have to pull off a
miracle if it wants to steal market share in that segment.

Don’t get me wrong - I am eagerly awaiting the new Defender but (as I have said before) I highly doubt that I will be able to afford one - based on everything that has been said before (espresso UK prices).

I really hope that I am wrong.

Some good points cheers

My comments are based high number of social media likes of tusk pic and pilots, what i have investigated and direct comments from my dealer, "we have had tonnes of interest" a few months ago that wasn't the case.

Will be interesting for sure.