Swaggie
I am not bashing everything JLR Defender,current and unreleased.That is completely incorrect.Originally Posted by blackrangie
Correct.
Matey, ya can't expect to bash JLR the brand of car I've owned and loved 5 of on a land rover forum continuously with the same stuff and not expect a reply.
And especially when ones bash JLR and praise non JLR companies which do exactly the same if not worse. I ask myself, why are people like this here and what are they contributing in a positive way.
If people want to get excited about the new defender, let them
If JLR wants to Hype it, even better.
Having an opinion is fine, makes for great discussion and debates, however bashing everything JLR Defender current and unreleased on these threads since they started gets a bit much for a forum of enthusiasts that are for the most part genuinely interested in what is to come.
I am not going to go around in circles,again.
Many know the well documented issues with the last model.Finished.
Other brands of vehicles have issues as well.Finished.
All you seem to want to do is bash any other vehicle,particularly Tojos.
What for,I have no idea,it’s been done to death and you keep going on and on.
Sure interest in a new model and peoples ideas are great.
Sensible discussion,as I have said is also great.
Can we continue on without bashing away at the same old,same old,same old.
Swaggie
Totally agree,and to me,the black roof is not only impractical,but looks hideous,particularly on the last Defender run,many seem to have the black roof.
White would have been a lot better.
That’s my opinion only.
Not bashing the last Defender run,at all,just my opinion.
Swaggie
Oh dear....and I painted mine back.
Swaggie
Exactly,having a shortie,they must think there is a market for them somewhere.
Many other brands have tried them,over the years,then dropped them due to lack of sales.
LR also dropped them from some markets,then brought them back for a while.
No sign of a ute type vehicle in the new Defender line up yet which is interesting.
Swaggie
Great,if we were all the same ,had the same ideas,and thoughts,what a boring place this would be
Swaggie
Er yep....Great,if we were all the same ,had the same ideas,and thoughts,what a boring place this would be
ForumSage
SubscriberWeeds, you didn’t need to paint your 110 roof black. We already knew you are different.
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ForumSage
SubscriberBlack roofs look great. Just they absorb heat. Having said that if you have a roof rack on and touring with gear up top that takes the sting out. If shiny black that helps. Mine is dark metallic grey so not a lot better than metallic black. Cheers
Swaggie
Sure it might be hotter but I’ve just jumped in my white hi-lux and it hot inside....if my defer was parked beside it would be hot as well.
36 outside temp
When the inside temps are in the 40 or 50’s it just plane hit, wind windows down, start driving the bulk of the heat is replaced.
YarnMaster
Yes I have pointed out issues with the defender and the Toyota it's nice to see that we agree on that.
You will notice, i only ever bring up other brands if someone says that brand is better and its not factual. In "Defence"
I never go on the offence when it comes to other brands, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder and love that there is a ton of different four-wheel drives driving around Australia makes things interesting.
In regards to defending JLR as a brand this will always happen if someone bashes it.
It will only go around in circles if it needs to go around in circles.
Good to keep things positive, the old ticker works better in that scenario
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