Thread: Running out of time for a 2018 Defender launch..

Everything said here is seen by LR executives. They must laugh like hell. They know exactly where they are marketing their vehicles and I'm sorry but the ****y little Australian market you guys keep crying to fill , thinking it will change LR's fortunes, just ain't going to happen Petunia.

If there is a possible market for a flowover model, in quantities which may suit LR Australia, then it may be offered here.

LR produce a utilitarian version of the D5 now. Whether it becomes available here is only up to LR's marketing team.

A 2 seater panel van version (for want of a name for it)with a panel/bulkhead between the seats and flat cargo area is available in UK.

My neighbour who is a pom has been there the last few weeks has seen and sat in the vehicle.

If he has pics I'll try and get some.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

Everything said here is seen by LR executives. They must laugh like hell. They know exactly where they are marketing their vehicles and I'm sorry but the ****y little Australian market you guys keep crying to fill , thinking it will change LR's fortunes, just ain't going to happen Petunia.

If there is a possible market for a flowover model, in quantities which may suit LR Australia, then it may be offered here.

LR produce a utilitarian version of the D5 now. Whether it becomes available here is only up to LR's marketing team.

A 2 seater panel van version (for want of a name for it)with a panel/bulkhead between the seats and flat cargo area is available in UK.

My neighbour who is a pom has been there the last few weeks has seen and sat in the vehicle.

If he has pics I'll try and get some.

Every Discovery model over the years has had a commercial vehicle in its range,but none have ever arrived here.

There just isn't the market in Aus for them.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

Everything said here is seen by LR executives. They must laugh like hell. They know exactly where they are marketing their vehicles and I'm sorry but the ****y little Australian market you guys keep crying to fill , thinking it will change LR's fortunes, just ain't going to happen Petunia.

Hopefully they do read this forum, but I fail to see why they’d bother if they’re not interested in the Australian market as you say.

Anyone else think its strange how the biggest LR site in the world,,
has to deal with LR models left over from other markets?


anyway,, heres the latest RR.
Back to the Future perhaps,,

RANGE ROVER SV COUPE

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

Anyone else think its strange how the biggest LR site in the world,,
has to deal with LR models left over from other markets?


anyway,, heres the latest RR.
Back to the Future perhaps,,

RANGE ROVER SV COUPE

The Australian market for the SV Coupe will be significantly smaller than for the Defender.

This fantastic AULRO site has grown out of enthusiasm for vehicles that are really designed to traverse places like the Australian continent. Increasingly however, new Land Rovers (while capable off-road) are only really being designed and priced for wealthy urban fashion strips. I doubt AULRO will continue to thrive on new models if this trend continues. It will always be an excellent resource for early model Land Rover devotees, but to me the signs are slready there in terms of how few threads there are for new models like D5 and Velar.

Unless the next Defender is a true working class, bush oriented, practical vehicle, Land Rovers days as a manufacturer of vehicles for work and / or real adventurers are numbered. And therefore their relevance to the Australian continent. Despite the push for increased comfort in working vehicles, there is a threshold between price and pragmatism that the Australian market values. That’s why utes up to $60K are so popular. Over $60K is still Luxo-barge territory and not practical for the majority. The Toorak tractor sector might be where the big money is, but without the real work / adventure vehicle the Toorak ‘look of adventure’ will wane.

Any vehicle called a Defender that is only designed for City poseurs and not for defence work for a start will be a laughing stock. The old one got away with it in later years because of its heritage. The new one won’t be able to rely on that at all. And neither will Land Rover.

Originally Posted by Zeros

The Australian market for the SV Coupe will be significantly smaller than for the Defender.

This fantastic AULRO site has grown out of enthusiasm for vehicles that are really designed to traverse places like the Australian continent. Increasingly however, new Land Rovers (while capable off-road) are only really being designed and priced for wealthy urban fashion strips. I doubt AULRO will continue to thrive on new models if this trend continues. It will always be an excellent resource for early model Land Rover devotees, but to me the signs are slready there in terms of how few threads there are for new models like D5 and Velar.

Unless the next Defender is a true working class, bush oriented, practical vehicle, Land Rovers days as a manufacturer of vehicles for work and / or real adventurers are numbered. And therefore their relevance to the Australian continent. Despite the push for increased comfort in working vehicles, there is a threshold between price and pragmatism that the Australian market values. That’s why utes up to $60K are so popular. Over $60K is still Luxo-barge territory and not practical for the majority. The Toorak tractor sector might be where the big money is, but without the real work / adventure vehicle the Toorak ‘look of adventure’ will wane.
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Heard an LR devotee a while ago (can't recall exactly where) saying that the average span from brand new to " going bush" for D2-3-4 models seems to be the third owner, or around 7 years old.
I tend to agree with him. By that stage, the resale value has dropped to a point where people are more comfortable with risking some bush pinstripes and stone chips.
Perhaps in 6 or 7 years time , there will be an upswing in the thread counts for D5/ Velar Bullbar, rocksliders, dual battery kits, etc!

Originally Posted by Zeros

The Australian market for the SV Coupe will be significantly smaller than for the Defender.

This fantastic AULRO site has grown out of enthusiasm for vehicles that are really designed to traverse places like the Australian continent. Increasingly however, new Land Rovers (while capable off-road) are only really being designed and priced for wealthy urban fashion strips. I doubt AULRO will continue to thrive on new models if this trend continues. It will always be an excellent resource for early model Land Rover devotees, but to me the signs are slready there in terms of how few threads there are for new models like D5 and Velar.

Unless the next Defender is a true working class, bush oriented, practical vehicle, Land Rovers days as a manufacturer of vehicles for work and / or real adventurers are numbered. And therefore their relevance to the Australian continent. Despite the push for increased comfort in working vehicles, there is a threshold between price and pragmatism that the Australian market values. That’s why utes up to $60K are so popular. Over $60K is still Luxo-barge territory and not practical for the majority. The Toorak tractor sector might be where the big money is, but without the real work / adventure vehicle the Toorak ‘look of adventure’ will wane.

Any vehicle called a Defender that is only designed for City poseurs and not for defence work for a start will be a laughing stock. The old one got away with it in later years because of its heritage. The new one won’t be able to rely on that at all. And neither will Land Rover.

At a guess, i would say there are far more threads going these days on the d3,4,5 and L322 and newer than there are on isuzu counties and 300tdi disco and defenders.
Up until only a few years ago, it was the other way around. I guess people are upgrading to newer vehicles.

Originally Posted by Vern

At a guess, i would say there are far more threads going these days on the d3,4,5 and L322 and newer than there are on isuzu counties and 300tdi disco and defenders.
Up until only a few years ago, it was the other way around. I guess people are upgrading to newer vehicles.

Yep I agree. There was an explosion in D3-4 threads 4-5 years ago as a lot of us upgraded from D2s etc. The D4 may not be riveted together like a Defender but it still bush capable and there are plenty on here modifying theirs and getting out there and using them.

There may be a similar push in 3-6 years time as our D4s age, but from my perspective I hope I will be moving over to a bush ready capable modern "defender type" vehicle rather than a curvy D5-6....