Some better spy shots at last!

**Arapiles** · 6th October 2018, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by ozy013

Probably Landrover playing games, or another manufacturer taking advantage of all the speculation. ...........think I will wait till I see it in the flesh.

LR said at the Paris motor show that this is a pilot build, not a mule. In other words, this is what we're getting. And the photos were taken by LR at LR's front gate, presumably in Solihull.

Originally Posted by scarry

So Toyota will continue on their merry way with the old hat,simple 70 series,and continue to sell them in bucket loads,in Aus,and also many other countries,such as Africa.

70 series is heading for the chopping block because most of the current models don't meet the minimum safety standards required by mines. That's why they updated just the one model with airbags - it was the one the mines use. Why not update all of the models? Because there simply isn't a business case for it. At the moment they only sell them in countries where safety standards are lax enough, but I'd guess that they'll be gone entirely within 10 years.

**Arapiles** · 6th October 2018, 05:24 PM

Interesting disparity in responses between Disco owners and Defender owners ....

If you look at the LR slides I posted earlier there are two new LR models/nameplates to come. One is probably the "Road Rover" but might the other be a new hard core mining/farming vehicle? I note in this respect that the new Defender is stated to be "dual use" vs the Discovery which is stated to be "lifestyle" or something to that effect.

**Zeros** · 6th October 2018, 05:37 PM

‘Dual Use’ for contemporary Land Rover = City & Suberbs

**rar110** · 6th October 2018, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by scarry

Good luck to them

Yep, have seen a few posts from people with coil D3 being quite disappointed.

Nothing like having a 2” lift at the touch of a button.

**Arapiles** · 6th October 2018, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

Yep, have seen a few posts from people with coil D3 being quite disappointed.

Nothing like having a 2” lift at the touch of a button.

It's also very cool to be able to drop the height to get into car parks. Had a lifted Patrol with a roof rack in front of me trying to get into the Crown carpark - he had to reverse back onto Kings Way, I dropped the height and got in easily.

**p38arover** · 6th October 2018, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Arapiles

One is probably the "Road Rover"

That name was used in the 50s on an LR wagon and later on the first Rangies before the Range got it's final name (see Range Rover, The Complete Story, page 12. There is a photo but I'm not going to lay my book flat on the scanner to get a photo to post.

EDIT: Here's a pic, not the same as in my book but you can make out the name on the clay model.

Road Rover.JPG

Road Rover 2.JPG

**rar110** · 6th October 2018, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Zeros

Yes you could carry a spare airspring, compressor, lines etc. But a coil spring is better out bush IMO. ...stuffing anything with spinifex is ridiculous, would not be pleasant in 50degree desert heat! nor a satisfactory repair. Tech for techs sake is one reason LR has lost the bush / work market. I’ll stick with the coils. ...oh and the spare tyres LOL - much easier to change than stuffing a rubber booty with spinifex. No comprison.

The air spring is less vulnerable than I tyre, as it has no contact with track/road. I wouldn’t carry a spare air spring. I would carry a spare rear shock though.

I count on the front springs in my L322 lasting about 10 years. So changed the fronts before the last trip. The rear springs don’t seem to fail. The first L322s are now 16 years old and rear springs don’t seem to be giving up.

**Zeros** · 6th October 2018, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Arapiles

It's also very cool to be able to drop the height to get into car parks. Had a lifted Patrol with a roof rack in front of me trying to get into the Crown carpark - he had to reverse back onto Kings Way, I dropped the height and got in easily.

Well that says it all about Land Rovers target market.

**Zeros** · 6th October 2018, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

The air spring is less vulnerable than I tyre, as it has no contact with track/road. I wouldn’t carry a spare air spring. I would carry a spare rear shock though.

I count on the front springs in my L322 lasting about 10 years. So changed the fronts before the last trip. The rear springs don’t seem to fail. The first L322s are now 16 years old and rear springs don’t seem to be giving up.

What?! ...just stuff some spinifex in ya shock, she’ll be right!

Not convinced. My Defender coils have been going strong for 20 years over the harshest terrain in the country. I’ll stick with coils.

Cant say the same about OME shocks, which is why I now run Koni Raids.

**cjc_td5** · 6th October 2018, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Zeros

Well that says it all about Land Rovers target market.

What BS. Lowering the height is also very handy for loading roof racks and also at camp you can drop the height to make vehicle access easier.

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