Thread: Will be Retro

Originally Posted by spudfan

Was in a shop the other day and they had "a globe of the world". It was round!!!Gosh, every day is a learning experience for me.

nahhhhh Spudfan.....you been conned again , the earth is flat.....its always flat everywhere I drive , thousands of km at a time and just few hills here and there.

what goes round and round are those bloody photos of camoflaged vehicles on this thread.

why are some still barking about 18" wheels?

ffs we've had them since the d2a, isnt 20 yrs long enough to get used to something?

every suv on the market has , as far as I know 18" wheels available , most are unneccessarily larger

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

why are some still barking about 18" wheels?

ffs we've had them since the d2a, isnt 20 yrs long enough to get used to something?

every suv on the market has , as far as I know 18" wheels available , most are unneccessarily larger

Because for years now LR have been making theirs cars so that the smallest rim you can fit is a 19" rim. That's sort of OK(aside from tyre choice) on the L462/L494/L405 because they have 31" tyre but, on the D4 it was a disaster with its 30" tyres. Now the new defender has 32" tyres as standard, an 18" rim makes for a good sidewall and if 33" or 34" were fitted then all the better.

People are excited about it because it shows that LR have finally woken up to themselves and realised what they were previously doing with tyre/rim/brake packages was creating an achilles heel for their products which effectively neutered the brilliant tech they had created.

Just looking at tyre sizes and if this information is correct that there are options of 18, 20 and 22 with a 32" diameter, that doesn't seem too bad to me. If they are going to stick with the 255 width that we have seen (255/60/20) then the options should be as follows:

255/70/18 - 32.1"
255/60/20 - 32"
255/50/22 - 32" This size didn't come up as available, the nearest to 32" that showed was 285/45/22 at 32.1"

Not sure how many will go for the 22" wheel but from my research the 18" will give you a side profile of 7" (including bead).

seen this article ?

First ride: 2020 Land Rover Defender prototype | Autocar

Originally Posted by incisor

seen this article ?

First ride: 2020 Land Rover Defender prototype | Autocar

Posted above, but its a good one, looks like they invited lots of auto press and today was the release date, the LRO mag article is my pick of the bunch, but all seem to have something to add.

LRO article talks about:

Permanent All wheel drive
3 diff locks
D7u based.
Standard low range
18-22s
All terrains standard
Wading depth more than d5's 900mm
Coil & air options
Diff ratios different to D5
Paddle shifters optional
No manual
Trademark Alpine windows
110 more comfortable, 90 better offroad due to ramp over.
Tested to a level between other fullsize LR's and mil spec.
Stronger welded and braced subframes, balljoints, susp arms longer and stiffer.
Structural undertrays stiffer.
Large objective gains both on and offroad at this stage, without losing core defender DNA.
Adaptive dampners

As expected, unfortunately, not a true inheritor of the line, nor off'spring' other than in name (and maybe b/c it does actually come standard with springs). Regardless, I look forward to the unveiling and learnings to come thereafter.

From the article "we tear down the car, see where the weaknesses are and redesign or respecify as necessary.”
Does this mean there is light at the end of the tunnel and that we will all be able to do a strip down (of the car) in the back yard? "Yeah, while we watch the pigs fly" I hear someone say.
The lack of a manual gearbox cuts my interest in it completely.