YarnMaster
I can personally attest that that is not true for reasons described in my above post..try bending braced 50mm tubing, ive landed on the rear corners, tubed 50mm doesnt even budge (side without spare is not even braced and is similar distsnce from middle mount of front middle mount on new defender. As others have said previously if you hit a bull, a huge bar is not going to stop it, its just going to cause more damage behind.Originally Posted by trout1105
OldBushie
SupporterIF you believe that you will swallow ANY BS story, IF you hit a bull you will do FAR more damage without a bar.if you hit a bull, a huge bar is not going to stop it, its just going to cause more damage behind.
BTW what are JLR going to charge you for that engineering miracle of a bar??
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2004 D2 "S" V8 auto, with a few Mods gone
2007 79 Series Landcruiser V8 Ute, With a few Mods.
4.6m Quintrex boat
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ChatterBox
SubscriberThis was the earlier prototype....
YarnMaster
SupporterBR
The difference between a tube comp bar (I assume yours is one of those)
And the tea towel rack displayed by JLR is the very bracing you talk of
But not the bracing between pipes - but the actual attachment to chassis/structure
50mm tube can be strong - heck most roll cages are less than that in dimension BUT they are attached to the vehicle rigidly. That bar will have four m10 bolts in shear with a small plate running along the “chassis” - lean against bar - and it will flex towards the bonnet.
The pictured bar will have next to no rigidity in the longitudinal plane
That bar like the old LR a-frames or tube bars cannot be leaned into a tree like your Comp bar
It will simply fold into the bonnet.
The tea towel rack will adequately support some spot lights but nothing more.
I would wait and see what ARB et al come up with before paying a dime for that.
Oh and I full steel bars can and do stop bulls and vehicles are driveable afterwards
Been there done that
S
'95 130 dual cab fender (gone to a better universe)
'10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)
ChatterBox
SubscriberThe LR bars have always just been Brush Bars to push aside bushes blocking the Green Lanes in the UK.
It would look better just as a nudge bar for mounting some spotties or a light bar only.
Master
It’s not a good bullbar is it. Looks flimsy and terrible on the Defender IMO
YarnMaster
This is the aframe nudge bar with pedestrian impact friendly winch cover
The AU " bull bar" will not as far as I'm aware be available in any other markets, especially not the UK as it's illegal.
YarnMaster
Your on the ignore list.
OldBushie
Supporter
You only get one shot at life, Aim well
2004 D2 "S" V8 auto, with a few Mods gone
2007 79 Series Landcruiser V8 Ute, With a few Mods.
4.6m Quintrex boat
20' Jayco Expanda caravan gone
YarnMaster
Bull bars are a highly debated subject on this forum and some believe having a big bull bar not only causes damage to the car but also you have to pay for the replacement bull bar itself instead of just damage to the car.
I think there is for sure there is logic in that and logic to the other argument.
I see this as a medium bullbar, not weak, but not a bull stopper.
If you hit a bull fastish, its trip over and your probably dead in most cars.
Let's please not get into a fight about bull bars there are plenty of other threads going on that subject.
I appreciate Landrover has made an effort for the Australian market to give some bush protection to the front end of the Defender and mount a winch.
For me and this is my opinion it will do me just fine until something better comes along. If not ill be happy, its got airbags and crumple zones and ill be insured.
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