The New Defender

**Disco-tastic** · 10th October 2019, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by blackrangie

This is positive

Last i saw of lucky 8s wheels they were using wheel spacers to make them fit. Is that still the case?

**SpudHeadTed** · 10th October 2019, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by 101RRS

So as you will be able to do that with the new Defender it is by your definition a "real Landy".

Not had a dead roo or deer in the back of my RRS but I have had the 12 bags of sheep poo so it must be a real Landy too.

Garry

Remains to be seen in the flesh! There might doilies all over the back seats!

Nope. ...But it is a real Rangey.

...kudos for poo in the toorak tractor

**blackrangie** · 10th October 2019, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Last i saw of lucky 8s wheels they were using wheel spacers to make them fit. Is that still the case?

No idea, can you send em an email?

**cjc_td5** · 10th October 2019, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by blackrangie

This is positive

I'd be interested to see if the Defender runs for example the same PCD and offset as the D5? If so, something like the TuffAnt 18" wheel may fit over any big brakes? There's no way this could be confirmed until the new vehicles hit our shores though.

If so, I'd seriously consider some D5 TuffAnts for my D4 now (and live with the slightly incorrect offset), knowing that I could take them forward to a new Defender in the future....

**blackrangie** · 10th October 2019, 01:06 PM

Will this be legal in AU without engineering on new defender under the 75mm total lift self certification laws.

35s inch tyres with 1 inch lift

3inch taller tyer/1.5inch lift
1inch susp lift.

2.5inches lift.

Cant remember what combo it has to be if any.

**scarry** · 10th October 2019, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Last i saw of lucky 8s wheels they were using wheel spacers to make them fit. Is that still the case?

If so they won’t be legal in Qld.

I recon as someone else has said,wait and see,there are offset and stud pattens to consider,although I would hope stud patten is same as the other vehicles they make.

Going to 35’s may also cause issues if the vehicle for whatever reason drops to its bump stops.
It also changes the gearing of the vehicle considerably.

The disadvantages mayoutway the advantages of the larger tyre size.

**blackrangie** · 10th October 2019, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by scarry

If so they won’t be legal in Qld.

I recon as someone else has said,wait and see,there are offset and stud pattens to consider,although I would hope stud patten is same as the other vehicles they make.

Going to 35’s may also cause issues if the vehicle for whatever reason drops to its bump stops.
It also changes the gearing of the vehicle considerably.

The disadvantages mayoutway the advantages of the larger tyre size.

Re ratios

**blackrangie** · 11th October 2019, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Will this be legal in AU without engineering on new defender under the 75mm total lift self certification laws.

35s inch tyres with 1 inch lift

3inch taller tyer/1.5inch lift
1inch susp lift.

2.5inches lift.

Cant remember what combo it has to be if any.

The NSW 75mm self cert lift is 50mm tyres, 50mm lift.

In NSW there is also a law that states you can go +7% of max original spec tyre size.

And another that states 50mm lift does not require cert.

So it would be fully legal in NSW to do the following to the new defender:

Lift suspension by up to 50mm

Increase tyre size from 815mm(32.08) to 872.05mm (34.33).

Also is regardless of ESC as these are minor mods in NSW

QLD 50mm susp, 50mm tyre increase with ESC.

VIC same as QLD but ESC has to be proved to be still working, and susp has to be from reputable supplier.

Heres a big point with all new landrovers.

The best way imo to add a small lift is to lift the body up from the subframes or drop the suspension mounts down. Where does this system fit within all the regulations, its would 100% be safer than lifting the suspension itself, as you are keeping all the susp travel and geo stock, just raising the body and most of the weight stays down low.
I'm referring to 1 or 2 inch subframe lift.

I think this type if lift should/would be allowed under self cert laws, thoughts?

**LRD414** · 11th October 2019, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by blackrangie

I think this type if lift should/would be allowed under self cert laws, thoughts?

Probably right but body lift totally unnecessary in my opinion. The new Defender has more suspension travel than my D4 and it has plenty for all situations I’d consider attempting and certainly all situations you’d encounter touring. If you increase tyre to a 33 or 34 it will have excellent clearance with suspension left stock.

Scott

**ozscott** · 11th October 2019, 09:36 AM

There is always a balance to be struck. Going straight to the biggest isn't always sensible nor does it necessarily give the best result. I increased profile and width on my D2 - one size wider and one profile size taller - to get 31 inch. Now admittedly this is on 16 inch so it's great from that point of view. But those 31's have taken me all over the place and a lot.of hard low range off roading. Bought a new Triton and it comes.standard with 31 inch (on 18's). I can go 33inch legally in some brands but would I? Having see what it can do off road I am impressed (A multi mode terrain response system in the MR with rear diff lock and aggressive TC). I would go.to 32 perhaps but that would likely be enough to keep me very engaged.

The new Defender won't need bugger tyres given what it comes with stock, if you can get that stock OD on 18 inch. If it's only 19 then I can see a greater need to go up sizes.

Cheers

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