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As expected LR has got greedy - at those prices they will be priced out of the market - if anyone can afford to buy one with a couple of options will probably have the money to buy a RRS for only a little more.
Cross this off the list.
The Jappers are starting to look even better value.
Garry
I’m not at all surprised by these prices. JLR see themselves as a premium brand (whatever that means) and were never going to price the new Defender down anywhere near the prices of the previous model (which was always a bargain IMO).
Similar pricing to Toyota:
A GXL Workmate wagon is $75000 and the base Defender has a lot more fruit.
A base 200 series is $85,000 and up from there.
Unfortunately $100k is the new norm for a fully equipped new 4x4 wagon.
A base model new Defender at $77,000 drive away may come to be seen as a bargain given all the tech, safety equip, etc.
Whether the new Defender reclaims market share will all be in the quality of the drive and its reliability over the next few years. It’s not the price.
One thing’s for sure, current prices of 2009-2016 Defenders are not going to fall.
Mate I can't see the asking price of a second hand stock 110 being maintained. Are they back to sensible sales now ? I wouldn't pay more than $35 For a sub 50k klm model of the last 2 years in which they were making them (in excellent condition). But I'm not the market[emoji1787].Quote:
Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed
No mate they’re still $50k+.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
As I say, they were under priced new at $50k. In the current market they are still a bargain at $50k even with 100,000km on the clock.
Blacktop tourers,certain commercial fleet buyers, city only buyers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 101RRS
True, thats not bad though, my RRC cost 12k to paint and 4.5k to wrap in clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by scarry
Wrapping is a great idea and having that covered under factory warranty not bad either. Rip it all off when you want to sell or leave as is if not too bad.
Self heals small scratches.
Cant see that at all, its priced inline with LC200 or cheaper at base, cheaper than Gwagon professional.Quote:
Originally Posted by 101RRS
More car on both counts as per my post above on what is standard.
RRS is a RRS, I've never looked at one as a tourer, weekend truck. But that's just my tastes i know it can do it.
New defender is a different animal with different buyers compared to the RRS.
To me its a Proper 4x4, right combo of utilitarian, comfort, safety, power @ a reasonable price for what you get.
Maybe for a basic 90 but even when the Puma 110s were first released they were $65k on the road - a lot of money for holes in the floor, ripples in new body work, exposed rivets everywhere along with all the leaks. Yes on paper were around $53K but in reality when you got a 110 into your driveway were $65K.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed
When I bought my D2 the Deefender 110 was only a few K more. Wasn't much in it. Had drive both and couldn't go past the D2. Never regretted that even with the crazy prices for a used Defender in recent years , but horses for courses etc.
Cheers
Thoughts on this?
Only available on defender 110
Analogue Dials with Central TFT Display
038IC
Also no interactive driver display
How would analog dials differ? Is it referring to speedo area? So just 1 digital screen?