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    I guess one benefit of the JLR woeful resale on their luxo SUVs is that a $100k 2020 model will be worth sub $50k by 2022/3 !

    I’m sorry BR I know your in love from first sight but this is not the model that will save JLR from oblivion

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    '10 130 dual cab fender (getting to know it's neurons)

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    I wonder if the usual JLR luxo SUV advanced depreciation takes place on this one?
    2020 $100k units will be worth sub $50k by Christmas 2022!

    Perhaps at that price the capability will outweigh the ugly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Maybe for a basic 90 but even when the Puma 110s were first released they were $65k on the road - a lot of money for holes in the floor, ripples in new body work, exposed rivets everywhere along with all the leaks. Yes on paper were around $53K but in reality when you got a 110 into your driveway were $65K.
    The one in my sig was $52K,driveaway,but in ‘09.

    Can’t see it being worth anywhere near $40 or more,in immaculate condition,today.

    I will report back because it’s going to a new home next year.

    FWI,a 76 GXL is $69 000 today
    GXL 200,$86K
    VX 200 $96K
    Sahara. $116K

    That’s approx driveaway prices Qld,depending on fleet discount,etc.

    With a much better warranty than 2020 Defender.

    So 2020 Defender is not miles away in price from LC,as I guessed.

    IMHO,a completely different vehicle from the Tojos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roverrescue View Post
    Tombie - Me thinks your P400 budget just exploded!

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    All good - we just up-specced the order to the P400 “X”.

    Why the heck not The New Defender

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Most people that get the base model won't be getting leather seats imo.

    The way i see it, if you want a bare bonesish defender and happy with 10second 0-100 its 70k+ extras

    You want a reasonable power diesel with more goodies 80 to 90k + extras

    You want V8 fast petrol, with economy of a smaller engine 95 to 110k + extras

    This is all with EAS standard, twin speed transfer, 8speed auto, Apple carplay, android auto,dab,remote,nav, adaptive dynamics, offroad tyres, 2 zone climate control, keyless, tpms, airbags etc.

    They seem to have added a fair bit more to standard than the base D5.

    90 will no doubt shave around 10k off those prices.
    I love the look of the new defender and the straight 6 looks appealing but at $110k plus on roads and extras..... That's a joke.
    If that's the pricing for a 110 with that engine then it looks like it will be a new s5 patrol for meThe New Defender

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    I love the look of the new defender and the straight 6 looks appealing but at $110k plus on roads and extras..... That's a joke.
    If that's the pricing for a 110 with that engine then it looks like it will be a new s5 patrol for meThe New Defender
    2020 Nissan Patrol leaked | CarAdvice

    Looks very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    I think it looks great, and the power train is proven and bullet proof. I'll also save $30k if the pricing on here is anyhting to go by. Do I think the new defender is $30k better than the new patrol?.......No!

    I refuse to pay roughly $130k for a reasonably loaded 110, there simply is no value that I can see to make me think otherwise.

    The disco 5 is about to become LR's most irrelevant vehcile and depreciate like an anchor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    I think it looks great, and the power train is proven and bullet proof. I'll also save $30k if the pricing on here is anyhting to go by. Do I think the new defender is $30k better than the new patrol?.......No!

    I refuse to pay roughly $130k for a reasonably loaded 110, there simply is no value that I can see to make me think otherwise.

    The disco 5 is about to become LR's most irrelevant vehcile and depreciate like an anchor!
    I think the D5 used might be a good priced alternative to a new Defender. I still think the D5 is a bit fugly and would even consider a L494. Both are more than capable for what I need.

    In reality I’m probably not looking at changing over from the L322 for a couple of years. Will see what the options look like then.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 49-107 (probably selling) turbo, p/steer, RFSV front axle/trutrack, HF, gullwing windows, double jerrys etc.
    Perentie 110 wagon ARN 48-699 another project
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nando View Post
    I love the look of the new defender and the straight 6 looks appealing but at $110k plus on roads and extras..... That's a joke.
    If that's the pricing for a 110 with that engine then it looks like it will be a new s5 patrol for meThe New Defender
    Go for it, pricing is no different to a cruiser, but the new defender is lightyears ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Defender looks very utilitarian in comparison imo, Nissan lost the looks plot from Y62 onwards(in standard form), love the engine though!

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