Thread: The New Defender

Originally Posted by Tombie

Yeah... getting older and we both agreed we’re buying it because we could not because we needed to.

So for the first time - we aren’t!

New hybrid camper is on the cards, a few tweaks on the current vehicles and a big shift towards a better work-life balance.

Wise decision financially. In three years you'll be able to buy the same vehicle for half the price thanks to depreciation.
We are at the same stage. Upgraded to a fancier camper and retired. The 110 has only done 138,000 Ks so it will keep us mobile for years to come. And we have a little Mazda to run around in.
Get out there!

BR
I’d imagine until the MHEV gets into the wild it will be hard to know
Considering they are running a combined generator / starter / electric motor
And 48V Lith my gut would say that it is a full 48V system
Ie - generates at 48V and starter / boost runs on 48V

So to use the 48Lith to run a fridge you’d possibly be able to tap the system and run a step down to say 24V and run your Engle on that but I’d imagine back feeding solar (even via a good Lith program charger to a 48V system would be risky!!!)

The reason they use a generator is that it can double as a motor
Alternator cannot play that trick

I was a little surprised it is belt driven and not gear driven to the flywheel???? Must be a pretty ballsy belt!!!

The real test for LR engineering is going to be just how close to IP67 they got with those electrics!!!! I wonder where the breather system is for the Liths? Having seen JLR “breather engineering” I bet they run it to 902mm height!!! Flooding those batteries in Nolan’s would I imagine result in a flatbed back to Cairns!!

Steve

Poops
My misread - I thought the e-supercharger was actually forward driving the gen/starter to give some push - it seems to be a seperate system
“Boosting the turbo charger to minimise lag”
Ie it’s going to be an electric air turbine giving boost at low revs before turbo generates power

I wonder why they went that way and not just run a bet driven supercharger for charge air
And the electric motor straight into transfer case or some such???

Anyways - will be super interesting to see these things in the flesh

S

Originally Posted by roverrescue

The real test for LR engineering is going to be just how close to IP67 they got with those electrics!!!! I wonder where the breather system is for the Liths? Having seen JLR “breather engineering” I bet they run it to 902mm height!!! Flooding those batteries in Nolan’s would I imagine result in a flatbed back to Cairns!!

Steve

Aren't all the batteries sealed? They're even sticking the starter battery in the back now on the L405/L494 etc along with the stop/start battery as well.

Need some sort of breather to help with air changing over temperature change
Liths done necessarily vent gas like a lead acid but they need to breathe to keep cool

Temperature control is just as important as charge control

Just ask Boeing !!!!

Originally Posted by SBD4

I think one of the videos I saw showed space under the floor where those battery packs are for non-MHEV vehicles.

Yes, but with MHEV and no +2 3rd row seats it looks like will still be space

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Some questions with the integrated mhev dcdc, will we be able to patch solar into this system, to run fridges etc.

So not having to install another dcdc converter.

Also having a generator, are they less seceptable to water/mud damage then alternators

Also notice how low the electrics are under rear floor, without +2 rear seats, surely there is underfloor storage?

Without the MHEV unit the boot has an under-floor "box" ..
Boot-storage-cubby.jpg

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Some questions with the integrated mhev dcdc, will we be able to patch solar into this system, to run fridges etc.

So not having to install another dcdc converter.

Also having a generator, are they less seceptable to water/mud damage then alternators

Also notice how low the electrics are under rear floor, without +2 rear seats, surely there is underfloor storage?

All I see there is a diesel with a battery powered turbo that helps reduce turbo lag. Calling a vehicle with this this set up an Electric Vehicle of any kind is a joke, surely. The Pretender Mild Hybrid Electric Vehicle system only supports engine off coasting when under 3km per hour!

All that extra kit for a power boost and questionable emissions reduction. Not for me. Who would?

For a hybrid EV option, wait for the PHEV!