Thread: This must be embarrassing for Land Rover

Originally Posted by W&KO

Bit early to be making big calls.....

Engine light on only one to date? Could be serious but looks like it wasn’t and it been fixed.

Camera not working isn’t a big deal.

Not not only one. Quite a few based on
YouTube videos by new owners and the LR tragic forums in the UK - if those owners are reporting its a worry.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Tombie

I’m confused why people think this is different to any other brand with a new model release.

Good point except the little petrol (like the one in the video above) have been in use in other LR and Jag platforms for several years. Also LR carry on more than anyone else with the PR machine bull**** about their extensive product torture testing and yet the consumer is still the real product tester.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Tombie

I’m confused why people think this is different to any other brand with a new model release.

Getting off topic slightly,and not the vehicle that you were referring to,

I wouldn't call the latest D5 a new model release.

I looked at it extensively to replace the D4.

Three years down the track,there are still silly stupid issues,one after another.You don't have too look far on UK forums to find out all about it.

Admittedly,this wasn't the only reason we didn't purchase one.

Maybe the link in these two vehicles is them being built in Slovakia?

Its a shame really as LR do produce some well designed and engineered vehicles.

I think it may be more to do with modern demands on vehicle OS.

Sometimes it just seems to go wrong


Remember Toyota smashed the 100 series across the globe, and then had thousands of engine and suspension problems - often catastrophic failures.
For a company that size, full of spin on being unbreakable, that’s some horrendous outcomes.


The most improved player in the game has been Mitsubishi in recent years. And they’re multitudes of funding better off than LR

Originally Posted by scarry

Sure,the D4,which was mainly Ford,was better

Lol, pretty much every part I have to replace on these, inc RRs and D3, Defender Puma etc, that have very early failures are stamped FoMoCo.
About 20 years ago the Ford agent workshop in Broome I worked at was swamped with warranty failures .
Ford has never been renowned for quality, this is well known in the trade.

Originally Posted by Tombie

I’m confused why people think this is different to any other brand with a new model release.

That is not apples to apples. Most other brands build vehicles that are reliable and do not fail even with new models. I've never had a new vehicle with a failure during warranty, ever. 100% of people I know that have purchased a new Land Rover in the last 10 years have had multiple warranty claims. The average being four per year.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Sometimes it just seems to go wrong


Remember Toyota smashed the 100 series across the globe, and then had thousands of engine and suspension problems - often catastrophic failures.
For a company that size, full of spin on being unbreakable, that’s some horrendous outcomes.


LR

Some seem to forget,there was a test by LR of the new D3,in its day,in East Africa.This was to show the world what a great vehicle it was.

After one shallow creek crossing they all had issues,some broke down completely .There were also numerous other problems.

I know someone that was invited to the release,he still can’t believe what actually happened and the issues they had.

He was invited by the local LR dealer,as he ran a fleet of LR’s at the time.His family ran a game park.

Now he runs a fleet of another brand,apart from an old Seires 2,which spends most of its time in the shed.

So it’s not what someone’s daughter,uncle or brother said,this actually happened.

To LR’s credit,they did do numerous improvements to the model,over the next few years.And then the D4 came along and was a further improvement.

Originally Posted by Red90

That is not apples to apples. Most other brands build vehicles that are reliable and do not fail even with new models. I've never had a new vehicle with a failure during warranty, ever. 100% of people I know that have purchased a new Land Rover in the last 10 years have had multiple warranty claims. The average being four per year.

You’re a lucky man.

I’ve had new Fords, Holden’s, Toyota’s, Mazda, Nissan’s and all have had something sorted during warranty.

Only vehicle that didn’t have any claims during warranty was the Isuzu - back then it was so basic there wasn’t anything to produce a claim!

The D4 has been the best of anything, only claims being a dash squeak and a seat bolster (and I was a big guy so likely my fault).

In all fairness, none have left me sitting on the side of the road during warranty.