Thread: This must be embarrassing for Land Rover

I didn’t read through all of the replies, I didn’t want to be triggered 😅
I had an early puma. Others had an early extreme etc etc and on it goes. There’s an X factor about land rovers that makes people buy them while ignoring the reliability reports (I did; not to say you did) especially the first versions of a new model. Wish I could say I wasn’t stung. I hope you get it sorted out before Stoholm syndrome kicks in.

Originally Posted by scarry

Those faults are nothing, compared with the ridiculous engineering and quality control on the Puma.

So in actual fact they didn't learn at all.

The last of a model run should have been the best of all of them,in actual fact, it was the worse.

Ah the old "Less Haste more Speed" scenario

Doesn't always work does it?

Originally Posted by DieselDan

Tesla, probably!

If you have ever been in a Tesla you would never make jokes about them, easily the best vehicle I have ever been in, extremely quite, very comfortable and easily by far the quickest, man they are quick, let alone it drives itself which has to be witnessed to be really appreciated.
However the main reason electric cars are the future is this, when driven from the Gold Coast to Noosa and back it cost $5.70 in electricity to charge the Battery. The last time I did the same drive in my D4 it cost $90 in petrol.

Unfortunately I don’t see a new Disco or Defender in my future purchases, to be frank I can’t stand the look of the D5, I made a decision six years ago to buy a V8 petrol D4 and apart from the fuel costs to run it has proven to be the most reliable LR I have owned and I can’t see me selling it until electric cars become mainstream and more affordable, which likely means I will be keeping the D4 for quite a while which I am happy to do, the D4 is by far the best vehicle I have owned.

Originally Posted by TerryO

If you have ever been in a Tesla you would never make jokes about them, easily the best vehicle I have ever been in, extremely quite, very comfortable and easily by far the quickest, man they are quick, let alone it drives itself which has to be witnessed to be really appreciated.
However the main reason electric cars are the future is this, when driven from the Gold Coast to Noosa and back it cost $5.70 in electricity to charge the Battery. The last time I did the same drive in my D4 it cost $90 in petrol.

Unfortunately I don’t see a new Disco or Defender in my future purchases, to be frank I can’t stand the look of the D5, I made a decision six years ago to buy a V8 petrol D4 and apart from the fuel costs to run it has proven to be the most reliable LR I have owned and I can’t see me selling it until electric cars become mainstream and more affordable, which likely means I will be keeping the D4 for quite a while which I am happy to do, the D4 is by far the best vehicle I have owned.

Not my joke Tel,it was the list results of a Survey which stated that. Me? I wouldn't know a TESLA if I tripped over it in my Size 10s let alone having a ride/drive in one. Meanwhile until I do, I'll take your word for it, certainly sounds impressive though.

I think when future history looks back on car propulsion the all electric vehicle as per the Tesla will be just a blip on the technology timeline. Its main drawback even with Tesla style fast chargers will be the time it takes to recharge - if we can get it down to a couple of minutes things might be difference.

To me the future lies in vehicles like the Hyundai Nexo Nexo | Coming soon | Hyundai Australia - an electric vehicle but instead of a battery, it has a hydrogen fuel cell. These are already in showrooms but not for sale just yet. There is one "bowser" in Sydney and soon to be four in Canberra where the Government is planning 20 Nexo's early next year - Qld is also intending to use them and Toyota is putting in a bowser in Melbourne.

With the greater use of green energy to make the hydrogen, the past restrictions of cost and emissions will be a thing of the past.

So once hydrogen productions comes on full stream and the refuelling infrastructure moves to the provision of hydrogen bowsers then I thing hydrogen powered, not battery powered electric vehicles will be the way of the future, but until that happens it will be battery.

Garry

Originally Posted by 101RRS

I think when future history looks back on car propulsion the all electric vehicle as per the Tesla will be just a blip on the technology timeline. Its main drawback even with Tesla style fast chargers will be the time it takes to recharge - if we can get it down to a couple of minutes things might be difference.

To me the future lies in vehicles like the Hyundai Nexo Nexo | Coming soon | Hyundai Australia - an electric vehicle but instead of a battery, it has a hydrogen fuel cell. These are already in showrooms but not for sale just yet. There is one "bowser" in Sydney and soon to be four in Canberra where the Government is planning 20 Nexo's early next year - Qld is also intending to use them and Toyota is putting in a bowser in Melbourne.

With the greater use of green energy to make the hydrogen, the past restrictions of cost and emissions will be a thing of the past.

So once hydrogen productions comes on full stream and the refuelling infrastructure moves to the provision of hydrogen bowsers then I thing hydrogen powered, not battery powered electric vehicles will be the way of the future, but until that happens it will be battery.

Garry

Hybrids are also the go, mainly due to convenience.
They have been around for a long time, since 1997.

Toyota has been using the Hydrogen technology for years, they have had vehicles with that technology on the market since around 2014.
They are also leaders using the same tech in Trucks and buses.
Although not here, as we seem to get the new tech last.

Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned

I didn’t read through all of the replies, I didn’t want to be triggered
I had an early puma. Others had an early extreme etc etc and on it goes. There’s an X factor about land rovers that makes people buy them while ignoring the reliability reports (I did; not to say you did) especially the first versions of a new model. Wish I could say I wasn’t stung. I hope you get it sorted out before Stoholm syndrome kicks in.

Are you talking about the rattling clutch springs in early Pumas, fixed when the Ford part was upgraded by LR with stronger springs, or something else? Just wondering what to look forwards to on mine, after 156,000 kms?