Thread: Guidance on Defender options

Hi All,

I am also looking at getting a Defender 110 SE, Thanks toSweetpea, this thread has some excellent information to help new comers like me with the options available on Defender. Took a test drive of Defender P400 SE on last Saturday, the ride was good and comfortable. Defender has got lots of storage space and overall seating area is spacious. The demo model didnt have the settings configured to lower the height when you park the car. Which made it bit difficult to get in and out of the car, we guys are not that tall. Having said that the sales person mentioned that you can configure the height adjustment.

One of the keys things which the sales person mentioned was that LR has started MY23 model configuration now, which has seen a bit of price increase and also has got some options as standard now.
Electronic AIR Suspension is standard, Active/Smart key, Terrain Response, Auto leveling headlights are standard. As per online articles Infotainment display is now standard 11.4 inch with digital center console. Where as the sales person mentioned that they were notified recently about lack of availability of parts which means that we are more likely to get 10inch Infotainment screen and Analog center console with a small screen in the middle. Wait time as off now is around 8-10 months.

Its bit confusing as even the spec sheet which sales person send me mentions about Air suspension as optional. Looks like the spec sheet is not updated for MY23. What is the best way to get accurate information on MY23 models and features like Infotainment and center console.


Cheers

2023 spec sheet is on the LR AUS site PowerPoint Presentation (landrover.com.au) For certain options, the only way to get them at the moment is either X or V8. Unfortunately. m

Hi All,

Just wondering what sort of millage a p400 and d300 is giving on daily usage. Curious to know what to expect.


One more thing given the price difference between d300 and p400. Tempted to consider d300. I have never owned a diesel car before, also majority of the driving will be city with max 50km in total. Delaer advised to go with p400 as diesel needs more kms to kick in DPF and do its job, else expect long term issues and service cost to be higher.

Would love to hear experience from fellow members.

Cherrs

Originally Posted by Tamamontu

Hi All,

Just wondering what sort of millage a p400 and d300 is giving on daily usage. Curious to know what to expect.

Long journeys our P400 is averaging between 10.1 to 10.6 litres per 100K, around town anything from 12 to 14 depending
on the traffic and application of right foot.

Over 14 months and 25K km's it as averaged 13L per 100K according to the trip, which is reasonably accurate
i am glad to say..

To clear out a DPF the exhaust temps need to rise above 600°C for a sustained period of time. This is hard to do in city driving, which is why the general recommendation is to jump on a highway and drive an hour before turning around and heading home, at least every fortnight or so. Ideally make that trip worthwhile for some reason other than maintaining your exhaust system

City driving is also the kind of driving that creates more soot to clog the DPF in the first place.

High exhaust temps are one side-effect of very efficient combustion – extracting maximum thermal energy from the fuel. Engines would run like that all the time if it weren't for the fact that those same high temperatures cause nitrogen gas to also burn and create nitrous oxides that are enemies of human health and atmospheric stability. So while clearing the DPF you'll also be chewing through the AdBlue that gets sprayed into the exhaust post-DPF to neutralise those NOx's.

So it's up to you: if you can't see yourself routinely cruising down a fast-moving highway at least a few hours a fortnight, that would be a point in favour of the P400.

Originally Posted by Tamamontu

Hi All,

Just wondering what sort of millage a p400 and d300 is giving on daily usage. Curious to know what to expect.


One more thing given the price difference between d300 and p400. Tempted to consider d300. I have never owned a diesel car before, also majority of the driving will be city with max 50km in total. Delaer advised to go with p400 as diesel needs more kms to kick in DPF and do its job, else expect long term issues and service cost to be higher.

Would love to hear experience from fellow members.

Cherrs

Just did a 3 day proper off-road trip in my D300 SE with rear e-diff.

Have done 8000kms on the car since getting it in Sept and it averages 9.8L per 100km around town, and I do a lot of around town driving so it’s pretty good.

When doing long road trips with the roof rack loaded it averages around 8L.

Off road driving for about 150kms it went up to 11.3L so was very impressed.

The e-diff really takes the challenge out of 4wdriving in comparison to our 2015 90. It basically drives itself off road you don’t have to do anything other than steer.

Originally Posted by TB

To clear out a DPF the exhaust temps need to rise above 600°C for a sustained period of time.

The vehicle we have now has two DPF's.
I have an ultraguage fitted which reads the temperature of the EGT,at both DPF's,that is two separate readings.
It will do a burn,if needed, when they are usually above 350 degrees,and during the burn will often increase the readings to a maximum of 450 degrees,on occasions.
I can also watch the DPF level guage on the vehicles instrument panel while driving,and see it doing a burn,as the level guage reduces.

Short trips where it doesnt sustain the temperatures long enough to do a burn woud probably be an issue,but this vehicle also has a burn switch which will enable a manual burn if needed,something LR's dont seem to have.
We have never needed to do a burn manually.It can only be initiated after an orange warning lamp comes up on the dash.

Originally Posted by scarry

The vehicle we have now has two DPF's.
I have an ultraguage fitted which reads the temperature of the EGT,at both DPF's,that is two separate readings.
It will do a burn,if needed, when they are usually above 350 degrees,and during the burn will often increase the readings to a maximum of 450 degrees,on occasions.
I can also watch the DPF level guage on the vehicles instrument panel while driving,and see it doing a burn,as the level guage reduces.

Short trips where it doesnt sustain the temperatures long enough to do a burn woud probably be an issue,but this vehicle also has a burn switch which will enable a manual burn if needed,something LR's dont seem to have.
We have never needed to do a burn manually.It can only be initiated after an orange warning lamp comes up on the dash.

Presumably, you now drive a Toyota. What you say is interesting but not really relevant to the topic of "Defender options". So could you please address the posters questions? This forum is for the L633.