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    This statement is still in the fine print on The Land Rover Defender | Land Rover
    Permanent All Wheel Drive is standard on Land Rover Defender except for those fitted with new D200, D250 and D300 6-cylinder Diesel engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB View Post
    This statement is still in the fine print on The Land Rover Defender | Land Rover
    Thanks, TB.

    I've sent an email to JLR (Australia) seeking clarification.

    Silence might be the reply but we shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post
    Thanks, TB.

    I've sent an email to JLR (Australia) seeking clarification.

    Silence might be the reply but we shall see.
    I have been advised by a Land Rover sales consultant after a few emails and a phone conversation that the AWD system as described in the iGuide applies to all 2022 Defenders regardless of whether the engine is petrol or diesel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post
    I have been advised by a Land Rover sales consultant after a few emails and a phone conversation that the AWD system as described in the iGuide applies to all 2022 Defenders regardless of whether the engine is petrol or diesel.
    How much do you trust the sales consultant? That directly contradicts information on the Australian web site where 6-cyl diesels are excluded from the “Permanent All-Wheel-Drive” claim via fine print, and on the US site which doesn’t have diesels and simply says “Permanent All-Wheel-Drive” without any disclaimers.

    What a balls-up.

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    TB,

    Whether I trust LR Sales consultants or not is irrelevant.

    I'm reporting back what I've managed to find out as I undertook to do.

    As I said before: caveat emptor. That still stands.

    Until someone bothers to find out more this is where this issue stands.
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    At the end of the day, when you select an off-road mode it’ll more than likely lock the centre haldex clutch providing 50:50 and then use the traction system to maintain forward momentum, so when it matters it’ll work just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TB View Post
    How much do you trust the sales consultant? That directly contradicts information on the Australian web site where 6-cyl diesels are excluded from the “Permanent All-Wheel-Drive” claim via fine print, and on the US site which doesn’t have diesels and simply says “Permanent All-Wheel-Drive” without any disclaimers.

    What a balls-up.
    The South African LR site makes no distinction between diesel and petrol. And does not use the term "permanent" before AWD.

    It's worth commenting that the difference between various sites (theirs and ours) is significant. One possibility is that the responsibility for each site has been left to local production. This is risky from an editorial point of view. Things can change at a higher level without that being translated to the individual sites.
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    I've received an emailed reply from another dealership which says and I quote in part: "Permanent all wheel drive with Twin speed transfer box and terrain response is standard on all Defenders".

    So I repeat: buyer beware.


    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post
    TB,

    Whether I trust LR Sales consultants or not is irrelevant.

    I'm reporting back what I've managed to find out as I undertook to do.

    As I said before: caveat emptor. That still stands.

    Until someone bothers to find out more this is where this issue stands.
    Mahn England

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post
    I've received an emailed reply from another dealership which says and I quote in part: "Permanent all wheel drive with Twin speed transfer box and terrain response is standard on all Defenders".

    So I repeat: buyer beware.
    Send 'em a copy of this error message that a few people have posted on FB and ask how this is possible on "permanent all wheel drive".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TB View Post
    Send 'em a copy of this error message that a few people have posted on FB and ask how this is possible on "permanent all wheel drive".

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    Thanks TB. Your devil's advocacy is helpful.

    Given that two dealerships have offered contradictory advice I can now escalate this to JLR Australia Head Office to demonstrate that, at best, its dealerships don't know the product they are selling!

    Stay tuned.
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