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    Main advantage of the Defender in the statistics is that, in common with some other large four wheel drives, they have a much lower accident rate - probably because of the type of owner they attract.
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    Yep for sure. People tend to drive live axle vehicles slower and with more care. Generalisation but true Disco 4 vs new Defender comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Main advantage of the Defender in the statistics is that, in common with some other large four wheel drives, they have a much lower accident rate - probably because of the type of owner they attract.
    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Yep for sure. People tend to drive live axle vehicles slower and with more care. Generalisation but true Disco 4 vs new Defender comparison
    Yep, but there's always outliers...Disco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Yep, but there's always outliers...Disco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparison
    You are talking about Pedro Rick? Can't be me Disco 4 vs new Defender comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Yep for sure. People tend to drive live axle vehicles slower and with more care. Generalisation but true Disco 4 vs new Defender comparison
    Not in the fast lane of the M1 here. Disco 4 vs new Defender comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Not in the fast lane of the M1 here. Disco 4 vs new Defender comparison
    At 85km/hr,you wouldn't want to be there anyway....

    Seriously though,i did 6hrs in ours recently,not again in a while i hope.

    The trip back in the LC 76 was just luxury.

    Oh,and by the way,the extra 1litre/100k,in fuel was well worth it.

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    It’s all about relativity.

    I drove our perentie wagon to the middle of Australia and back, and was ready to do it again right then.

    Now, 8 years later after driving that same 110 on the M1 to Coopers Plains, for about 1/2 an hour, I wasn’t game to go over 90kmh.

    The new Defender will have rack & pinion steering, EAS, ABS, TRS. So will be incredibly more drivable in all conditions and will only notionally connected to the 2015 Defender, which is ok as it was a dogs breakfast at best. I could describe it worse, it was a sub optimal rather than the ultimate example of the Ford produced Defender. I think it will be historically be regarded as a second rate product, which was a terrible strategic decision by Ford for such an iconic product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Yep, but there's always outliers...Disco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparisonDisco 4 vs new Defender comparison
    Certainly - but they are just that - outliers. And these outliers do not have a significant influence on the actual accident statistics, any more than the occasional sedate driver who buys a red sports car.

    Somewhere on the Monash accident research website is (or was) data confirming that based on actual statistics from insurers, the safety features of cars have less influence on their safety record than does the colour!

    For decades, we have been emphasising that the 'safety' of a car is how well it helps you survive an accident, largely ignoring features that help you avoid an accident, even the very obvious ones such as painting it an easily seen colour. This has led to the other very real improvements such as driver attitudes and road improvements being glossed over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    the 2015 Defender, which is ok as it was a dogs breakfast at best. I could describe it worse, it was a sub optimal rather than the ultimate example of the Ford produced Defender. I think it will be historically be regarded as a second rate product, which was a terrible strategic decision by Ford for such an iconic product.
    Exactly,they are actually quite a bit worse than your compliments.

    Such as shame,as it was the end of an icon.When you think about it,what other company would end a vehicle run like that?

    Even Dazza,and JC,guys that work on them all day,say the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Certainly - but they are just that - outliers. And these outliers do not have a significant influence on the actual accident statistics, any more than the occasional sedate driver who buys a red sports car.

    Somewhere on the Monash accident research website is (or was) data confirming that based on actual statistics from insurers, the safety features of cars have less influence on their safety record than does the colour!

    For decades, we have been emphasising that the 'safety' of a car is how well it helps you survive an accident, largely ignoring features that help you avoid an accident, even the very obvious ones such as painting it an easily seen colour. This has led to the other very real improvements such as driver attitudes and road improvements being glossed over.
    Don't red cars go faster?

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