Thread: Interesting QLD Safety Certificates for ARMY 110

Originally Posted by weeds

its a good thing most mechanics out there doing safety certificates are not across what is actually required.......

Have just been in a lengthy discussion with a certifier who has explained what actually needs to be done to an army 110 for a QLD safety certificate

• Blackout lighting needs to be disabled so that it cannot be activated
• Fit factorysteering lock (anti-theft, ADR 25), < What date of manufacture is the vehicle? >
• Fitfactory door locks (anti-theft, ADR 25),< What date of manufacture is the vehicle? >
• Removefront air transportation points (danger to pedestrians), < They actually don't need to be removed they must be compiant. That could mean encasing them in a rubber buffer similar to those fitted as standard to Mitsibishi Pajero bumpers. >
  
• removeall rear seats (non-compliance, ADR 5A) < What date of manufacture is the vehicle? >
• removepioneer tool holders from bonnet (danger to pedestrians),
• remove the Army modified front and rearbows and replace with the standard, unmodified parts (non-compliance, ADR 5A),yep this is the ROPS]< Again, if the purpose of these bows is to support the canvas roof and rack, then they wouldn't need to be removed. If they are to be considered a RoP then that is a different issue. >
  

i'm guessing most will keep their head in the sand and be happy with whoever conducted the safety certificate..........

the safety certificate system is flawed as you can fail at one place, drive around the corner and be passed by another

ADR 5/00 and 25/00 have a commencement date for class MC of July 1988.

sorry I don't understand ADR's, given the discussion is about ARMY 110 i'm not certain what the built dates are, could be either side of 88, I know in 89 a bunch of us took some 110's for a joy ride and I remember riding around in the back of a SIII in 88

Originally Posted by weeds

sorry I don't understand ADR's, given the discussion is about ARMY 110 i'm not certain what the built dates are, could be either side of 88, I know in 89 a bunch of us took some 110's for a joy ride and I remember riding around in the back of a SIII in 88

Absolutely, if you have a 1989 built 110 Perentie it has to comply with the ADR 5/00 and 25/00 however if you have a 110 Perentie built in May 1988 it doesn't have to comply with ADR which commenced after it was manufactured. It all depends upon the manufacture date printed on the Compliance plate.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Absolutely, if you have a 1989 built 110 Perentie it has to comply with the ADR 5/00 and 25/00 however if you have a 110 Perentie built in May 1988 it doesn't have to comply with ADR which commenced after it was manufactured. It all depends upon the manufacture date printed on the Compliance plate.

got it.........

an extract from an email conversation


Subject - Military road going vehicles (now ex-military) that were used by the Commonwealth under federal exemptions from ADR.
Q. Do the Commonwealth exemptions transfer to the new civilian owner?

No, vehicles must comply with all relevant standards.

Q. If the vehicle has to be modified from the above exemptions. Doesthe vehicle have to be made compliant with the standards appropriate to itstime of manufacture or today's standards (in particular, seating)?

Vehicle only needs to comply with the standards thatwere in place at the date it was originally used on the road network (usuallywill closely align with the date of manufacture).

Originally Posted by weeds

an extract from an email conversation


Subject - Military road going vehicles (now ex-military) that were used by the Commonwealth under federal exemptions from ADR.
Q. Do the Commonwealth exemptions transfer to the new civilian owner?

No, vehicles must comply with all relevant standards.

Q. If the vehicle has to be modified from the above exemptions. Doesthe vehicle have to be made compliant with the standards appropriate to itstime of manufacture or today's standards (in particular, seating)?

Vehicle only needs to comply with the standards thatwere in place at the date it was originally used on the road network (usuallywill closely align with the date of manufacture).

That was very good advice given. Just replace the word "standards" with "Australian Design Rules". Standards (a different organisation) are generally referred to in the rules.

Originally Posted by weeds

its a good thing most mechanics out there doing safety certificates are not across what is actually required.......

Have just been in a lengthy discussion with a certifier who has explained what actually needs to be done to an army 110 for a QLD safety certificate

• Blackout lighting needs to be disabled so that it cannot be activated
• Fit factorysteering lock (anti-theft, ADR 25),
• Fitfactory door locks (anti-theft, ADR 25),
• Removefront air transportation points (danger to pedestrians),
• removeall rear seats (non-compliance, ADR 5A)
• removepioneer tool holders from bonnet (danger to pedestrians),
• remove the Army modified front and rearbows and replace with the standard, unmodified parts (non-compliance, ADR 5A),yep this is the ROPS

i'm guessing most will keep their head in the sand and be happy with whoever conducted the safety certificate..........

the safety certificate system is flawed as you can fail at one place, drive around the corner and be passed by another

The Army 110s are Category NA Light Goods Vehicle, and are not subject to ADR 25 (Anti-theft) if built prior to 01/07/92. The Senior Commander and Carryall versions are Category MC and subject to ADR 25, while the 6x6s are Category NB2 and not subject to the anti-theft requirements at all. See http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roa...ry-N-Group.pdf for the applicable ADRs.


Blackout lighting (the lights themselves) must operate if fitted, or be removed. The blackout function of disabling Headlights and Tail/Stop lights must be removed, as this would be a non-compliance of ADR 13. As built, the Perenties do not comply with ADR 13 because of this feature, but it would be a condition of civvy rego to meet this ADR.


Perusing photos of vehicles in the current auctions, vehicles built from 8/87 through to 2/90 list the ADRs they comply with on the Compliance plate, while vehicles built from 8/90 just list the approval number to fit the compliance plate, as the list of ADRs by that time was getting long! See pics below.


The front part of the ROPS at least must be retained, as it forms part of the anchorage for the Passenger Restraint that qualified for ADR 5B. However, the same compliance plates explicitly state that approval is only for two seats, so the rear seats might have to go.