Perentie Cargo Pricing question

**Barefoot Dave** · 4th June 2016, 09:52 PM

He's dreaming.
So much visible rust makes me wonder what the firewall is like.
Keep on walking mate!

**landy** · 5th June 2016, 06:14 AM

I'm going to get shouted down by the Perentie guys here, but, I think they are all overpriced. IMHO I think they are worth 3-5K. And I think buying a 6x6 is asking for long term problems with parts supply.
I've seen how they are driven but admittedly they are serviced well. If not over serviced.
I had 64 vehicles inc trailers and mogs on my account and having driven almost all of them I can tell you they are ruff to drive and would be uncomfortable to own long term.
My advice, for what it's worth is buy a county with a 4BD1 and start from there. You might end up 20k out of pocket in the end but you will have a far better vehicle.

**Mick_Marsh** · 5th June 2016, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by landy

I'm going to get shouted down by the Perentie guys here, but, I think they are all overpriced. IMHO I think they are worth 3-5K.

I think you're right. I'll have two, please. FFRs with winch.

Originally Posted by landy

And I think buying a 6x6 is asking for long term problems with parts supply.

No more than any other vehicle that is over six years old unless it's an old Ford or old Holden.

Originally Posted by landy

I've seen how they are driven but admittedly they are serviced well. If not over serviced.
I had 64 vehicles inc trailers and mogs on my account and having driven almost all of them I can tell you they are ruff to drive and would be uncomfortable to own long term.
My advice, for what it's worth is buy a county with a 4BD1 and start from there. You might end up 20k out of pocket in the end but you will have a far better vehicle.

To tell you the truth, the 6x6 is so much more comfortable than the other Landrovers I have. So comfortable, my friend John nodded off in it when we drove to Hamilton.
I don't think the 4x4s are much different to the civvy 110s.

When can I collect my two $3k FFRs?

**landy** · 5th June 2016, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

I think you're right. I'll have two, please. FFRs with winch.

No more than any other vehicle that is over six years old unless it's an old Ford or old Holden.

To tell you the truth, the 6x6 is so much more comfortable than the other Landrovers I have. So comfortable, my friend John nodded off in it when we drove to Hamilton.
I don't think the 4x4s are much different to the civvy 110s.

When can I collect my two $3k FFRs?

I think you are quite mad, and you need some professional help

Just out of interest, and I'm genuinely interested but who supplies the axles for the widened diffs?

**Bearman** · 5th June 2016, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by landy

Just out of interest, and I'm genuinely interested but who supplies the axles for the widened diffs?

You can still buy them off landrover or better still HTE make the stronger ones.

**Carzee** · 5th June 2016, 05:52 PM

IMHO the Perentie 4x4 is the best value LR ever sold to the public anywhere in the history of LR.

Yeah its got armstrong steering and is basic/draughty/noisey. Yeah.

**Bearman** · 5th June 2016, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Carzee

IMHO the Perentie 4x4 is the best value LR ever sold to the public anywhere in the history of LR.

Yeah its got armstrong steering and is basic/draughty/noisey. Yeah.

I would agree, basically for simplicity, reliability and offroad capability that is hard to beat.

**landy** · 6th June 2016, 12:44 PM

I'm not saying I don't think that are a fantastic 4WD. They're probably the best off road capable machine going. In fact I loved instructing the basic driver courses because you could get so much out of them.
I just think that they are well over priced. I can't see where the money is compared to other 110s or defenders of similar specs.

**Mick_Marsh** · 6th June 2016, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by landy

I'm not saying I don't think that are a fantastic 4WD. They're probably the best off road capable machine going. In fact I loved instructing the basic driver courses because you could get so much out of them.
I just think that they are well over priced. I can't see where the money is compared to other 110s or defenders of similar specs.

Judging from the prices paid at the auctions, it would seem there are many that disagree with you.
I think they are overpriced but, hey, if you want one, you gotta pay the dollars.

**87County** · 6th June 2016, 04:22 PM

Market Value of Perenties.

The results of the AFM sales obviously go close to satisfying the legal definition of current market value.

Market value being the sum that an informed and willing, but not over anxious purchaser is willing to pay to an informed and willing, but not over anxious vendor, rather than miss out on the purchase.

It is possible that it could have been distorted by the fine print in the auction conditions which define the "buyers costs" at greysonline auctions. This distortion is up to 16.7% , being the additional amount that has to be paid to graysonline and which actual sum is undisclosed at point of bid. However, if we assume that purchasers are "informed" as per the above definition the distortion may be zero.

The lower prevailing prices achieved at the recent A.W.O.L. sale demonstrated the above market value definition exactly. That there was some anxiousness on the part of the vendor was demonstrated by the fact that such a large quantity was dumped on the market in one hit. Most buyers walked away with excellent buys, some even with multiple purchases. None remained unsold.

The definition is also clearly confirmed by the amounts paid on open maret resale generally which tend to vary mostly due to varying anxiousness of vendors. If you find someone anxious to unload you may get a good buy.

So when an individual takes the view that they are only worth $X to him - that personal judgement has absolutely nothing to do with market value.

So I would not "shout down" a personal view such as landy has put, I'm just stating the reality of the present market where open market sales as low as he has specified just won't happen.

There are no crystal balls - future market values may decline, stay stable or increase, who knows ?

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