Thread: Gen Y are not the Sharpest Group in the Toolshed

Be fair Gary, it's more like 80% of every generation that wouldn't know or care what a red light on the dash meant. Some of these dummies are even running the country. I can guarantee you that the 60's kids I grew up with are just as bad as the current lot. I hated my age group at skool. They sure were slack.

With population growth there are just more of them. Kudos to the hard working Gen Y's amongst us!

Originally Posted by Grover-98

I don't feel it would be fair to put all of a generation into the same category of intelligence... i am a Gen Y and i work hard for myself and expect no hand outs!

Gen Y could always turn around and say they were incorrectly raised by all "Baby Boomers"... just like they say statistics mean nothing to the individual... i feel the generation falls under this as well!

Kind Regards.

The spokesperson for a generation.

I think what you will observe in the subtext, is the time honoured generational paradigm shift from the proceding to the subsequent, and the passing of comment about the failure to reach a mutual understanding of one's ideology. By highlighting and refuting the opening statement, citing your own personal experience as a basis for defence of the offronted generation, your credibility has descended southwards by a display of hypocrisy. Further more by announcing to the community at large your arguement and the failure to comprehend the intended prose within the context of the original statement, you have unwittingly confirmed the very stereotype you were hoping to debunk.


In other words, "Harden up Princess". This has been going on since Adam was a boy. You will get your turn in years to come.

CC

Is it feasible that the last people of the preceding generation and the first of the next have the most in common as the previous gen's out going will have the most experience in the current level of tech and will pass on knowledge, and following the first level of the next gen will be the most out of touch with the newer tech coming in by the time they are at a point where they can pass on their knowledge (given that breeding ages are increasing).

So the gap between gaining knowledge and passing on that knowledge increases, and also that knowledge passed on is less relevant because of the increasing rate of technology improvement?

Not that in anyway I disagree with a good Harden Up every now and then.

Originally Posted by Col.Coleman

The spokesperson for a generation.

I think what you will observe in the subtext, is the time honoured generational paradigm shift from the proceding to the subsequent, and the passing of comment about the failure to reach a mutual understanding of one's ideology. By highlighting and refuting the opening statement, citing your own personal experience as a basis for defence of the offronted generation, your credibility has descended southwards by a display of hypocrisy. Further more by announcing to the community at large your arguement and the failure to comprehend the intended prose within the context of the original statement, you have unwittingly confirmed the very stereotype you were hoping to debunk.


In other words, "Harden up Princess". This has been going on since Adam was a boy. You will get your turn in years to come.

CC

What an awe-inspiring vocabulary you have there...go ahead and give yourself a satisfactory pat on the back then we will continue... OK, You can continue praising yourself in your own time.

I feel my comment was fair, i simply stepped in to make the point that it is not fair to blanket an entire generation under a single level of intelligence the same way it would not be fair for my generation to do the too your generation or any other for that matter. Garry who i have met and know to be a fair man would not have meant it i know but in all areas i disagree with generalisations. I did use my own personal experience for my generation but not to represent my entire generation just to represent myself which is all that was required to show that i am seperate from the mentioned gen Y in Garry's post which is enough to show the blanket doesn't quiet fit all of us underneath.

In other words, Get off your high horse

Originally Posted by Col.Coleman

The spokesperson for a generation.

I think what you will observe in the subtext, is the time honoured generational paradigm shift from the proceding to the subsequent, and the passing of comment about the failure to reach a mutual understanding of one's ideology. By highlighting and refuting the opening statement, citing your own personal experience as a basis for defence of the offronted generation, your credibility has descended southwards by a display of hypocrisy. Further more by announcing to the community at large your arguement and the failure to comprehend the intended prose within the context of the original statement, you have unwittingly confirmed the very stereotype you were hoping to debunk.


In other words, "Harden up Princess". This has been going on since Adam was a boy. You will get your turn in years to come.

CC

I don't think it is fair to pick on Grover 98 - I have met James a couple of times and been away on a trip with him - even though we are at either end of the adult age spectrum we got on really well - he is very respectful of not only his elders but everyone - he certainly doesn't fit the Gen Y stereotype - I bet he even knows what the little red light on the dash of his Disco means .

However I do agree that his response did show a little bit of sensitivity to the Gen Y issue - but his point about generalisations is true but the reality is that they do exist.

Garry

Gary,

I wasn't picking on James, he just happened to be the one to reply to defend generation Y. When talking in terms of generalisations, idiosycrasies of the indiviual are not applicable. Broad statements take into account the mean postion of the group, and not the extremeties. There will always be someone that doesn't fit.

I too am like this. I wish to deal with people I consider to be normal. By normal I mean, think along similar lines to the way I do.

People get testy about stereotypes, but like it or not, they always evolve out of some underlying truth. Deal with it.

I do not take your statement of "not being the sharpest tool in the shed" to be an assault on gen Y's intelligence, far from it, they are far more equipped to deal with the modern world than the preceding generations are, again as a rule with notable exceptions.

I would explain it his way.

Centries ago, woodworkers used to process their wood by hand using tools. Regardless of the tool, you needed to keep it sharp for best effect. Being that these tools were hard to come by, you tended to prize them and keep them well looked after and Sharp. If you didn't you bore a direct increase in effort which would then highlight the need to rectify the situation, and you would become pro-active to stop it repeating itself. A wide selection of the population of the time were directly effected and could relate to this lesson.

As time goes by, tools become more easily attainable, better designed and the labour component reduces. We start to use mechanical aides and become detached from the intimacy of hand work. With increased mechanical assistance the sharpness of the tool can be slightly overcome, but the truth still remains that for best results, the tool must remain sharp. For alot of the craftsman the detachment has already begun. For the poulation at large, we do not worry about this so much any more as it is either done for us, there is a mechanical aide, or is becoming cheaper and easier to replace.

We reach this day and age whereby there is total detachment. It is all computor controlled and we concentrate on the systems and outcomes, rather than the initial process. We are too evolved and technical to worry about the sharpness of the tool doing the cutting. We can just throw it away and replace it with another one. Yes there will be a select few who are directly effected, that fully understand that the tool must be sharp, but as a whole, it is all provided for us, and generally now in flatpack form, Ikea style. Buy it, use it, chuck it out and repeat.

Alot has changed, but nothing has changed. The fact of the matter is, no matter what the system or level of technology, the tool must be sharp. The difference is the disconnection with the fact by the subsequent generations, that the previous cannot relate to the next, due to shifting priorities.

So with that is mind, in this day and age, by horse, I take it you mean my Defender. By high you mean a 2" lift, and to open the door and get out.

But you are right Garry, they are a little sensitive aren't they

CC

Originally Posted by garrycol

I have a 21yo son of a friend staying with me at the moment and has been drinking my food and drinking my booze for about 6 months.

Wadda you do

Garry

Stop being a cranky old fart and teach him how to chew.

Originally Posted by Col.Coleman

....Blah blah blah, old man stuff

CC

Anyhow sounds as though his property investments have him further ahead than alot here, no need to know about cars when you have a large portfolio