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    Two Stroke Oils/Fuel

    So… I bought a brush cutter from ebay for the grand sum of $90! The manual says to use a two stroke mix of 25:1.

    My question is, I have 50:1 oil (unmixed) that I use for my Stihl chainsaw - is this oil different to 25:1 oil or is it OK to just put 50:1 oil in at 25:1 mix - ie. double what I use for my chainsaw?

    Thanks.

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    I've never heard of a specific 50:1 oil. Everything I've used is just 2 stroke oil and you mix it to whatever ratio you need.

    If it was me I'd just be mixing it at 25:1 as you suggest.

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    Yeah, I think the bottle of Stihl branded oil that came with my chainsaw is just labelled at 50:1 to make it idiot proof.

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    Actually a 50:1 ratio is LESS oil per liter of petrol, so LESS lubrication from the oil.

    25:1 is idiot proof.

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    I have a mixer bottle that you just fill up to the desired ratio so I wasn't thinking about it that hard!

    But... this website says 25:1 is more oil than 50:1

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    Ja that's what I said mate !

    "Actually a 50:1 ratio is LESS oil per liter of petrol, so LESS lubrication from the oil."

    Ergo and therefore a 25:1 mix is MORE oil per liter, and also implies LESS performance for the motor as the 2SO doesn't contribute to the combustion process and your fuel:air ratio is less because of the extra oil.....

    50:1 is pretty radical and calls for a hi spec 2SO. Mix as per the bottle instructions, but with a 25:1 2SO you can safely mix at 30:1.

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    That's what I was saying too! 25:1 is more oil per litre!

    When I said about being idiot proof I was referring to the label, not the mix!

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    caltex used to sell a 25:1 and 50:1 bottle of oil.

    one was twice the size of the other and the idea was that you simply turn up, buy (or supply)the 5l tin put the mix in add the fuel and you were good to go.
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    25:1
    easy terms = per 25 litres petrol & 1 litre oil
    half that = 12.5 litres petrol & 500mm oil
    half again = 6.25 litres petrol & 250mm oil
    safe to say you can mix 3 litres petrol & 125mm oil

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    good god, I thought I escaped the dreaded 2t oil threads on the chainsaw forum.

    50-1 is not extreme at all....there are some oils that will run at 100-1 (not that I would....)

    Most Brand names (stihl, husky, dolmar etc) will specifiy to run THEIR OWN brand oil at 50-1, but if using ANYTHING else, 25-1.

    Problem is, the motor is not tuned for both.....

    A good example is my neighbour bough a blower from bunnings (not a cheap cheap one) he read the manual and followed the advise of using 25-1 when not using manufactures brand. After 6 months the blower was running poor and lacked power. A simple muffler clean (sootted up) and fresh fuel at 50-1 made all the difference......simply the motor wasnt tuned to 25-1

    Any good quality oil made for AIR COOLED engine will be fine at 50-1 (tuned correctly of coarse)

    no problem running at 25-1 either (if engine is tuned there)

    I personally run my work stuff (blower, concrete cut off saw) at 40-1....any of my saws that are modded get 32-1

    I only use BP ultimate 98 octane (NO ethonal...very important)

    Fuel stored over 4 weeks gets used for cleaner.....any tool going to sit for longer than 2 weeks, gets drained and then started and run at idle to clear fuel lines.

    and btw it has been proven that a lower ratio (ie MORE oil) produces more power....to a point, somewhere about 12-1 it stops making more)

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