Thread: fantastic stripdown of 300 series Landcruiser.

[QUOTE=Tombie;3127355]There was a survey at one time that had usage of vehicles and showed the LR had a higher proportion by volume of offroad use than the others.[/QUOTE

Definitely wouldn’t be the case now,with their current crop of vehicles,could have been 20 to 30 yrs ago.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

There was a survey at one time that had usage of vehicles and showed the LR had a higher proportion by volume of offroad use than the others.[/QUOTE

Definitely wouldn’t be the case now,with their current crop of vehicles,could have been 20 to 30 yrs ago.

If that survey were not limited to "current crop" it may still be true. Lotsa Defenders and D1-2s still out there.

There was a survey at one time that had usage of vehicles and showed the LR had a higher proportion by volume of offroad use than the others.

That would be back in the long gone days that I was still a young bloke when the choices for a 4WD were pretty much restricted to a Series landrover or an early model Toyota or a Datsun/Nissan G60.

Now days even the number Toyota's used in the mining and farming industry that spend the vast majority of their lives off road would far outnumber thenumbers of Landrovers in Australia on or offroad.

JLR missed the boat decades ago as far as having the lions share of vehicles off road these days as it is quite a rare sight indeed to see another Landrover out on the tracks/beach nowadays.

BTW I once owned a G60 and it was a bastard of a thing to drive if you were over 5'6" But it was a weapon offroad all the same, Its a shame the body was made from crap steel and it rusted itself to death sadly.

Originally Posted by trout1105

That would be back in the long gone days that I was still a young bloke when the choices for a 4WD were pretty much restricted to a Series landrover or an early model Toyota or a Datsun/Nissan G60.

Now days even the number Toyota's used in the mining and farming industry that spend the vast majority of their lives off road would far outnumber thenumbers of Landrovers in Australia on or offroad.

JLR missed the boat decades ago as far as having the lions share of vehicles off road these days as it is quite a rare sight indeed to see another Landrover out on the tracks/beach nowadays.

BTW I once owned a G60 and it was a bastard of a thing to drive if you were over 5'6" But it was a weapon offroad all the same, Its a shame the body was made from crap steel and it rusted itself to death sadly.

Australia yes, but world wide? Love to know those figures. For example, 200 series vs y62 worldwide sales figures, surprisingly the patrol out sells it, but not in the land down under. All cars are **** in my opinion, may as well own the one with the most character

I have been a member of several Facebook pages for New Defender owners just seeing how they go. I have to say I am far from impressed with the reliability so far. Far too many with serious problems even down to water ingress from rain causing so much grief the vehicle gets replaced. As much as I love the vehicle's ability when working (not the look...just looks far too soft and requires a large amount of expensive work to be aesthetically pleasing IMO) I would not take the risk with this new vehicle. Maybe, maybe after a few years but LR's continued product testing on live customers remains alarming. Personally I think there is a solid market for the Grenadier and I look forward to seeing how the production models of these go reliability wise.

Cheers

Originally Posted by ozscott

I have been a member of several Facebook pages for New Defender owners just seeing how they go. I have to say I am far from impressed with the reliability so far. Far too many with serious problems even down to water ingress from rain causing so much grief the vehicle gets replaced. As much as I love the vehicle's ability when working (not the look...just looks far too soft and requires a large amount of expensive work to be aesthetically pleasing IMO) I would not take the risk with this new vehicle. Maybe, maybe after a few years but LR's continued product testing on live customers remains alarming. Personally I think there is a solid market for the Grenadier and I look forward to seeing how the production models of these go reliability wise.

Cheers

A mate of mine test drove four of them,over about two months,two had problems,brand new.
In my opinion that is disgraceful.

He then replaced his 12 yr old Prado with another Prado,which is six months away.

I agree 100% with Vern,all cars are **** and a PITA,so just buy whatever you want,or like,or your budget will allow.

Just do it.

Originally Posted by Tins

Thing is, those things endear me to the car. It's a constant source of little surprises.

Today's little surprise is that the starter has died of fright or something,,,,,

Originally Posted by Vern

I've seen a lot of 200's, especially with caravans on the back of flatbeds going through Coffs, its the most commonly towed holiday makers car i see.

To be fair, these days the RACV don't tow or check vehicles that aren't near their closest depot - they just send a flatbed.

The last time I rented a Toyota - a Kluger - it threw multiple fault warnings when I started it up at the farm. I rang the RACV and they just said we'll send a truck, which duly turned up - no little yellow van came.

And the big issue that set off two faults on two screens and would've required a flat bed into town? There was a rear door open ....