About to lose my licence

**JDNSW** · 19th January 2018, 12:11 PM

While this case seems to hinge on 0.05 or 0.08, there would be very few cases such as this - as far as I can ascertain from published results of breath test campaigns, there are very few that fall between these figure - nearly all drivers tested are way under 0.05 or way over 0.08.

A possible issue with setting the limit at zero is that as detection equipment improves, it is likely that readings above 0.0 will appear where the driver may have inadvertently breathed in small quantities of ethanol used as a solvent in various toiletries and external medication, or other incidental occurrences. For this reason, as specific non-zero threshold, for example 0.0001 would be preferred.

If you compare the statistics for over the limit drivers between those involved in accidents and those measured in random breath tests, it is clear that being over 0.05 means the driver is anywhere from twenty to fifty times more likely to have an accident. This is by far the most important known risk factor, way above experience, age, vehicle type etc, even whether disqualified, although I suspect that as drug detection methods improve, similar risk factors will show up for other drugs.

**trout1105** · 19th January 2018, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by VladTepes

Should I be concerned that my missus doesn't like me driving her around in the car unless SHE is tanked?
(which is never).

I see criminal histories on a daily basis and something that is evident is that many disqualified drivers just continue to drive anyway. And when they are caught they so often just get their DQ period extended ! Laughable. Because they just go out an drive again.... and again, and again....

Maybe a Mandatory Jail term for driving when disqualified would sort these Tossers out, After all it is Contempt of court.

DiscoMick · 19th January 2018, 01:36 PM

Mouthwashes usually contain ethanol, so it could raise a reading if taken soon after using the mouthwash, but it would dissipate over time. Better to rinse the mouth with water before a breath test. That won't change the blood alcohol reading, of course.

**trout1105** · 19th January 2018, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Mouthwashes usually contain ethanol, so it could raise a reading if taken soon after using the mouthwash, but it would dissipate over time.

Lots of blokes have tried to use that BS excuse on Minesites after a Big night at the boozer, It doesn't stop them getting a window seat on the next plane out

**Vern** · 19th January 2018, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by trout1105

Lots of blokes have tried to use that BS excuse on Minesites after a Big night at the boozer, It doesn't stop them getting a window seat on the next plane out

Have seen this on the site i am currently on.
Coff medicine gave a reading of .071.
Aerogaurd .246!!!!!!
Standing next to a guy who just sprayed himself (not down his throat), walked in and blew that number.
2 minutes later .000.

**trout1105** · 19th January 2018, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Vern

Have seen this on the site i am currently on.
Coff medicine gave a reading of .071.
Aerogaurd .246!!!!!!
Standing next to a guy who just sprayed himself (not down his throat), walked in and blew that number.
2 minutes later .000.

If they blew zero's on the second reading then fair enough But many of the people that use this type of excuse fail the second test.

**Gordie** · 19th January 2018, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Vern

Have seen this on the site i am currently on.
Coff medicine gave a reading of .071.
Aerogaurd .246!!!!!!
Standing next to a guy who just sprayed himself (not down his throat), walked in and blew that number.
2 minutes later .000.

Which is why, if you job depends on it, I would get a blood test if recording a positive reading on the screening device. The screening device most workplaces seem to use, is the same as the police use for roadside breath tests...but for police they are not admissible evidence in court. They can be inexact. That screening device gives the indication that you are over the limit and then the police must take you to and use a certified calibrated breath analysis instrument, either in the booze bus or at the station and submit that reading as evidence.

**trout1105** · 19th January 2018, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by Gordie

Which is why, if you job depends on it, I would get a blood test if recording a positive reading on the screening device. The screening device most workplaces seem to use, is the same as the police use for roadside breath tests...but for police they are not admissible evidence in court. They can be inexact. That screening device gives the indication that you are over the limit and then the police must take you to and use a certified calibrated breath analysis instrument, either in the booze bus or at the station and submit that reading as evidence.

On the vast majority of sites this is not available and normally when a test device is faulty it usually under reads a sample.
I have seen blokes that reek of booze pass a breatho on site.

**Gordie** · 19th January 2018, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by trout1105

I have seen blokes that reek of booze pass a breatho on site.

All good....party on!

**Vern** · 19th January 2018, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by trout1105

If they blew zero's on the second reading then fair enough But many of the people that use this type of excuse fail the second test.

Cough medicine didn't, blew .04 about 40min later, but was told to go home.

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