Thread: HID and DRL

Not quite there yet blokes...

Two types of message cancellation kits arrived today and neither fixed the irritating beeps and messages on the dash.

I can't recommend either of these kits from FleaBay



Mind you, I am still running the 35W lights. Maybe this will work when I swap over to 55W. Stay tuned...

Scouse... definitely want to check out your setup at the LR Expo next weekend.

Cheers, Paul.

Originally Posted by wayneg

Any legal buffs here know if these are OK for Aussie regs ( not that I really care). My understanding is hids need to be coupled to a self levelling system, maybe the EAS has given us an edge here?. I have been using one of these H4 bi xenon kits for 3 years on another car with no issues apart from a bulb out warning light easily cured by removing said warning light bulb. Even had the car over the pits for inspection with no dramas and have been pulled over many times by unhappy patrol men looking for faults again with no issues. I was pulled up over led side lights not showing bright enough in daylight though.

At the risk of being unpopular I will answer this… Under Aus vehicle laws this is NOT legal. HIDs installation needs to include self levelling headlights (yes another computer in the L322/D3,4/RRS), headlight wipers, and a projector and lens unit designed for HIDs. The later is because the focal point of a HID bulb is different to the halogen it has replaced and causes glare outside of the intended light area. It’s an easy check - all HIDs with a halogen part number (H7, H4, H1 ect) have been fitted to halogen lights, you will notice that legal HID installations have completely different globes (like D1S for eg).

As we have noticed very rarely is anyone pinged for it – I know of an Audi owner that was but I believe his were set far too high and he was pulled over for another offence first. Personally I think the enforcement agencies are under resourced and have far better things to do, and like all the illegal over sized tyres getting around nothing will happen until they prove the mod has contributed to a series fatality - they simply don't have the man power - if that happens there will be a crack down…

Originally Posted by harlie

At the risk of being unpopular I will answer this… Under Aus vehicle laws this is NOT legal. HIDs installation needs to include self levelling headlights (yes another computer in the L322/D3,4/RRS), headlight wipers, and a projector and lens unit designed for HIDs. The later is because the focal point of a HID bulb is different to the halogen it has replaced and causes glare outside of the intended light area. It’s an easy check - all HIDs with a halogen part number (H7, H4, H1 ect) have been fitted to halogen lights, you will notice that legal HID installations have completely different globes (like D1S for eg).

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I had a read of the adrs a while ago (very very hard to uderstand leagal crud), and everything you state above is correct. However, i believe that the rules may have changed slightly. The headlights on most new cars with hids do not have wipers, and the suspension can be self leveling instead of the lights.

The other thing it neds to have is an E4 stamp on the headlight itself, and the HID can be no more than 35W.

In all, yes they arent legal, However, if you have them properly adjusted and keep the globes to 6000k or less, the chances of getting done are next to none.

From a safety aspect, the advantages of correctly adjusted HID headlights far outweigh the fact that there is a 1 in a million chance you may be asked to change them back to normal globes.

Andy

What about just doing the High Beam, I find Low beam satisfactory most of the time, if you wish go stay legal Philips do a very hot (read bright) legal halogen, I fitted them to my D1 and the improvement was out of sight( no pun intended). They are not cheap, quality rarely is, and they can be hard to find due to the cost but they are well worth it especially if you combined them with HID High beams which is my plan.

Cheers

Rushy

Originally Posted by Rushy

What about just doing the High Beam, I find Low beam satisfactory most of the time, if you wish go stay legal Philips do a very hot (read bright) legal halogen, I fitted them to my D1 and the improvement was out of sight( no pun intended). They are not cheap, quality rarely is, and they can be hard to find due to the cost but they are well worth it especially if you combined them with HID High beams which is my plan.

Cheers

Rushy

Ebay - from UK for less than 1/3 of $ in local stores

Hi guys, i've actually done a 35 watt hi/lo conversion on my D2 using a kit from Jaycar which costs around $135. It works perfectly and hasnt presented any problems at all.
I was considering doing the same to my newly aquired 2000 P38 and have followed this thread with interest.
What if any is the difference between the D2 and the P38 when it comes to the headlights and thier wiring?
cheers,
Deano

D2 V8 modified lifted, locked 33's - the fun vehicle &
2000 p38 pristine and white - the town car

Wiring up the lights would be the same if it weren't for the bulb failure system the RR has.

If you can live with the warning flashing up all the time, the kit can be fitted the same way.

Just thought I would bump this to the top again to see if anyone had has a good result yet with the can-bus issue.
There seem to be a few kits on the market now which are different to the one I fitted to my Merc. H4 hi low which are completely plug and play, one individual set for each side, ( Bulb ballast and error cancel unit) not one set running from the same kit loom.