Thread: 95 HSE Is it worth it

Probably too much. It is now 15 years old and I have seen very good younger examples go through auctions for less. She needs to bear in mid that she could spend the purchase price again with one failure. Old luxury cars are cheap because there is no "keeping up with the neighbours in Toorak/Vaucluse/Hamilton" value in an old used car, and the people who can now afford to buy them can't afford to maintain them. Dealers don't like them because they have to give warranty and warranty insurance is expensive and has high excesses on cars that can have expensive failures.

If it is good and she likes it and is prepared to maintain it, fine.

Well said Brian.

These beasts are fast becoming an enthusiast vehicle more so than an alternative to mass-produced Jap 4wd's.

Not so bad to keep running if you are prepared to do maintenance yourself, but it seems that many dealers/workshops want to charge premium prices to do fairly minor jobs, or replace whole subsystems (e.g. EAS or HVAC) when component replacement is reasonably straightforward for keen amateurs (like me), with the assistance of forums like this one.

BTW: I paid not much more than that asking price for my '99 4.0 just under 2 years ago. I'd go a 99+ model over a pre-99 all other things being equal.

Cheers
Paul.

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

She needs to bear in mid that she could spend the purchase price again with one failure.

She is aware of this and it is rather daunting for her she budgets for servicing and repairs, the car has had considerable work done to it with many systems being replaced. But obviously 8k in repairs in one hit would really hurt!
I contacted All4x4 and they have given me reasonable servicing costs but as you said replacement costs for parts may well be the killer.

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Old luxury cars are cheap because there is no "keeping up with the neighbours in Toorak/Vaucluse/Hamilton" value in an old used car.

It is a soon to be (possible) ex Mosman tractor from new hence the service history (owner updated to a 2010 model RRS).
Thinking of offering 8k for it.
I will show her these threads and let her decide, she has no way possible to service it herself but does keep her vehicles maintained.

Thankyou for the honest responses.
Dazza

Fuel consumption is the least of her worries.

I've owned one for over 7 years so I know.

Well she has it booked in to get a diagnostics check and look over on monday if all is good we will have a new member on here tuesday.
Cheers Dazza

Sounds like a good price to me with such a relatively new engine. Good luck !

The biggest issue has been alluded to a couple of times....

It's the dirty dogs who charge Doctors rates (and specialist not MD!) for labour and gold/platinum prices for parts that bring the biggest issues. I am pretty sure these criminals are the reason that the vehicles don't get well maintained in the first place. And that's with out mentioning the actual dealer (stealer) network and their version of modern day highway robbery. The practices they all perform under the guise of being service providers I now simply call GOUGING.

The premise from their perspective is probably if you can afford one in the first place then you can afford a regular GOUGING!

Of course there are exceptions, if the lady was in Melbourne I would refer her to an honest decent "value equation" workshop that I now use when I am out of my depth (or patience!). I am sure some of the local lads up that way could help out with some guidance. And you really only need to look at how cheap parts are in the UK to see that the system over here is just a dead set rip off.

Too many people getting too fat off others having more cash than brains.

AAAAAH WELL, That's my spleen spewed for a while!!!

Originally Posted by PaulP38a

Well said Brian.
These beasts are fast becoming an enthusiast vehicle more so than an alternative to mass-produced Jap 4wd's
Paul.

Long live the enthusiast. I must have 2 of the most enthusiastic cars of all time, A Range rover with EAS and a Becm and a Mercedes with a hydraulic operated roof with 12 prone to leak pistons and untold other model specific ecu,s and most parts off the scale price wise
The pay off is when the are performing perfectly due to your own effort.